Posted on Jan 25, 2020
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CSM Tom Satterly
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He should be held in the books as a loss therefore they don’t need his number to count towards their umbers. They are probably harassing him
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SFC Srp Ncoic, Lab Ncoic
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PO2 Frank Moore - So? How does this address SGT Gomez's concern?
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SFC Srp Ncoic, Lab Ncoic
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MSG Loren Tomblin
MSG Loren Tomblin
3 mo
Personally if he is a half-stepper cut him loose and nail him on his DD-214 re-up code just in case as a contingency plan if he decides that he wants his job back. Let him go home. Failure to follow procedures to maintain a military standard to be done by all is a reality that when you take an oath either maintain it or ask for release.
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SSG Russell Busicchia
SSG Russell Busicchia
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CPL John Donovan - check each answer. i.e, a the b then c, etc. When your done the page looks a bit like a christmas tree.
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SGM Jrotc Instructor
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This Soldier should have already taken the exit(Army and VA) physical exam and the unit should have the Soldier annotated as a loss. The chain of command must keep in mind that of the Soldier is injured during the APFT and the Soldier chooses to pursue medical care this will push the Soldier past the ETS date. Unless things have changed this is reportable to BDE and DIV because now the unit has a non mission capable individual plus the individual is past the ETS date. My exit physical exams exempted me from taking an APFT and it was annotated in my out processing packet.
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SFC Danny McDaniel
SFC Danny McDaniel
10 mo
Yep he would be non-deployable and count against them on the USR if they still do that.
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SGM Jrotc Instructor
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SFC Danny McDaniel USR still exists. The format has changed a little.
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SPC Robin Price-Dirks
SPC Robin Price-Dirks
10 mo
I was harassed like this for the last 3 months of my service. Back to back guard duty, pt test every week, fat boy program when I wasn't overweight (guy put his foot on the scale), and I was supposed to be PCS'ing to Germany and reuping for the 3rd time. Phone calls in the middle of the night, and you know why? I refused to do a horizontal favor for a married SSgt in my chain of command. He even tried to get me court martialed in my last 5 days in the unit and had a Capt help him with it. The Capt who I didn't even know actually showed up at my door 2 weeks later and asked me for a date. You can guess what my answer was.....colorful and very BLUE. I was on career status and that SSgt told me he would "tank" my career if I didn't. Well he did and I didn't!!
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1SG Michael Farrell
1SG Michael Farrell
9 mo
I am no longer surprised at the stories behind the stories that large organizations with lots of people in them produce; and, the silliness inherent in some of them are due primarily to the fact that all people including soldiers are actually humans and can do marvelous things and also screw up a 2 car funeral. Most of us just do what we need to do and avoid complicating things beyond basic contradictions inherent in complicated scenarios. We have a lot of our best war stories about creeps that did this kind of stuff.
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1SG Leroy Lucero
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They are not supposed to give a pt test. It needs to be no physical activity his last 30 days so he doesn’t hurt himself.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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On the one hand, I don't see a huge need for the PT test. On the other, I am not sure why this is supposed to be such a huge deal. It's not like they won't let you out if you don't pass it, is it? I feel like there must be more to the story.

I guess I would take the test, do my best (which was always mediocre; I am not an athlete) and then move on.
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SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM
SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - Actually, in my case, I was to get a MSM on retirement (something that in those days was almost exclusively an Officer award). They also tried to claim that retirement was a "favorable personnel action" and 1 month before I was to go on terminal leave I was "ordered" to take a PT test or they would (try to) stop my retirement ... a special 1 person (just for me) event. I was on "profile" anyway, but I passed it, got my medal and retired. They still messed with me afterwards anyway since the VA never got my medical records; they were never found, but that is another long saga. This is the short version but you get the idea.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM - Ouch. That kind of sucks.
I guess it also illustrates what we used to say, that the people you don't mess with are the cooks, the medics and the guys who fill out your paperwork. Not saying you did, just that all three categories can make your life miserable in ways you can't much push back against.
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SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM
SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - Thing is, if there was anything other than the fact that I seemed to get lots of accolades and they didn't. I was not aware that I had done anything to "piss off" anyone.
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