Posted on Jan 25, 2020
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1SG Ernest Stull
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I say no. Has the soldier had his ets physical if so and he has his ets order then he should not be participating in any training.
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COL Chief, Payroll Branch
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That is a broad question. It depends on the situation. While I agree with most of the comments by the senior NCOs, which are spot on, there is always a possibility of a soldier who is trying to manipulate the system. However, if the soldier has been a good soldier without any issues, I don't see the point of making him do a PT test.
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CPL Jarod Depastene
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Manipulate the system by ETS'ing? How?
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GySgt John Hudson
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No! He is being harassed if he already has a PFT on the books for last year, he should be good to go.. JP
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SP5 Matt Wyeth
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Pound sand command.
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SPC Andrew Murray
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Apparently by regulation he still has to take the test. The IG might be interested in why a command feels it necessary to give him a PT test so close to ETS and look into any possible hazing.
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Maj Dale Smith
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I'm with CSM Satterly on this. That said, does your troop have a job waiting for him? He could call their bluff and fail the test. Then the Army has to retain him and pay him until he can pass the test.
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SPC Cannon Crew Member
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The soldier should even be doing pt at this point.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Good question - Ask his first-line Commanding Officer directly for clarification. Be prepared to support your reasons for asking.
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SPC Julio R.
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Edited 2 y ago
Always with the dck head command desk jockeys that have nothing better to do. They want the easy way out so that they don't have to write out paperwork telling them why this or that. It is simple he or she has 20 f n days to stop being a blue falcon pos cheesedck. It is always someone with rank too, they need their resume plumped up so the more positive "numbers" the fluffier it gets.
Those aholes pulled that crap on me when I was Med boarding and then came the height and weight. They were scheming trying to get me out on a technicality but my lawyer told me that they can f off with their childish rank pulling bs. He said I was 90% out the door and they can file all the chapter paperwork they want. That paperwork was on the commander's desk faster than anything I had ever seen done in my whole career. I mean financial paperwork nope, leave paperwork nope, off base housing paperwork nope.....but he didn't pass height and weight ah hell Nah "how we got him" type bs.
The joke was on them because not only did their paperwork go nowhere I came back with reenlistment paperwork because my case wasn't done and you should have seen the coc flip out.
He pulled rank and said he wasn't signing anything that will extend me. So I mentioned this to the lawyer, boom, I had that reenlistment paperwork signed by cob.
F your rank anyone one of you if you abuse it and act like your s don't stink. So no chapter got extended 3 more months and egg in his whole face for pulling rank on me when all I was trying to do was leave and be out of everyone's hair but they had a bullseye on my back.
You see I was a 4-time spec 4 and proud of it. I knew my sht and they knew I knew my sht, in the rear with the gear is not me I was a boot on the ground put me in the field and I will shine type soldier. You can miss me with that dog and pony bullsht.
I passed that bs test too btw, it was the broke dck test but I passed. I did my action on the field not in garrison. Chain of command was soup sammich and football bat ways of leading, not all but most.
I am glad to be out and not dealing with aholes with rank. Good riddance.....
So if he has 20 days I would talk with someone other than that coc I would talk to a lawyer about it that way no one can hem you up.
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SPC Kenneth Bowles
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Very Strange. Never heard of a PT test administered to a soldier who is so "short".
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