Posted on Jan 25, 2020
I have a soldier with an ETS date is in 20 days, and the command wants to give him a PT test. Does the soldier have to do it/pass or fail?
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Yes. He is still in the military. Just because he is short, doesn't change the fact that we must fulfill our oath of enlistment. I don't know if there is an exception in the regulations, but he gave his word when he raised his right hand.
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Tell him to take it or go to sick call. And congratulate him for getting out so he doesn’t have to deal with dicks like that anymore.
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My suggestion is for him to fail. Nothing worse on a commanders record. Teach him/ her a life lesson that will last long past his ets.
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Typically, Soldiers within 90 days of ETS shouldn't take a PT test. If SM gets injured, the Army could potentially ha e to extend him in order to take care of any medical issues since it happened in LOD
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It is my opinion that he does not need to perform the PT test. The results dont matter he is getting out anyway. The command is just being butholes.
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Depends..
Did the soldier complete his phase 2 physical.. if the answer is no then he should take it. DTMS doesnt discriminate, it doesnt take into account Soldiers on leave..it hurts the companies stats.. I personally have soldiers get up to date on all HR Metrics and training qual as best I can so when they go on PCS/Transition leave they dont sit red for 2 months. And APFT is the easiest PT you do all week.. if you have to study for it, your organization probably has not been conducting good physical fitness training.
Did the soldier complete his phase 2 physical.. if the answer is no then he should take it. DTMS doesnt discriminate, it doesnt take into account Soldiers on leave..it hurts the companies stats.. I personally have soldiers get up to date on all HR Metrics and training qual as best I can so when they go on PCS/Transition leave they dont sit red for 2 months. And APFT is the easiest PT you do all week.. if you have to study for it, your organization probably has not been conducting good physical fitness training.
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Tell your command you have released the Soldier to complete his TAPS and he will be unavailable for an APFT. The SGMs have already commented on what “should be” (counted as a loss, final medical, etc), but your other Soldiers will watch how you handle this.
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It used to be 6 months prior to ETS, but there is no limit on regulation, now, that I know of. I met an NCO last fall who bragged that he gave a OR text to a soldier 30 days before ETS. When the kid failed, he was chartered and lost all of his benefits. I can't imagine a leader being proud of this!
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SFC Joseph Behmke
What is an "OR text"? or did you mean "OR test"? Either way what does OR stand for, drug test?
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Hell no, he doesn't, and you should be fighting for him. The last 45 days before ETS should be spent out-processing, prepping his VA claim, getting his shit in order, and attending every pre-ETS training he can. And he's got less than three weeks left.
Your command team is toxic.
Your command team is toxic.
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CPL Jarod Depastene
LTJG Kevin Matthews -
Gods-damned right.
I have mixed feelings about my service, but overall, if someone is dead-set on enlisting, I'll tell them how to make the most of it, and what, exactly, to expect.
Gods-damned right.
I have mixed feelings about my service, but overall, if someone is dead-set on enlisting, I'll tell them how to make the most of it, and what, exactly, to expect.
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SFC Joseph Behmke
CWO4 Miles Weaver - Not necessarily, if he has a family and lives off post he has a lot of arrangements to make in between his TAPS outprocessing training and appointments. It depends if he is doing a DITY or Partial-DITY move also along with where he is separating from. If he lives on post he has to clean or make cleaning arrangements for his quarters and get cleared from them as well as everything else on his Post Clearance Form.
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CPL Jarod Depastene
I really don't understand why so many "leaders" try to make ETS'ing as miserable as they can for Joes. Seriously.... just let them go. No need to punish them for not staying on. Perhaps if the command team had made the idea of reenlisting a little more palpable, you wouldn't have to worry about your unit's re-up numbers to the point where you take such ire at someone moving on with their life.
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CPL Jarod Depastene
Personally, I fought my med board tooth-and-nail for 6 months, before I gave up and accepted my fate. Because I had an ops NCO who used to worship the ground I walked on, suddenly start treating me like the scum of the earth for prepping to separate.... and getting out wasn't even my choice.
If that dickbag E7 hadn't been such a prick about it, I'd have kept fighting and would probably be a 1SG by now.
If that dickbag E7 hadn't been such a prick about it, I'd have kept fighting and would probably be a 1SG by now.
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