I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?

The way I see it - right or wrong - we have private citizens openly disobeying an appointed law official - which resulted in a confrontation - there is a right way and a wrong way - and confronting police officers when you have firearms is not the smartest thing to do and you are lucky that no one was shot - you claim not to bow before tyranny - but what you did is not what the constitution is for - when the officer asked you to stand down you should have complied - as I tell troops on this site that going against your NCO's is a no win situation in the moment, even if the NCO was wrong - you comply, then utilize the open door policies - you 1SG are acting and behaving as a private and that confrontation has done more harm then good in the national arena for NRA and 2nd amendment advocates - you 1SG are that officer who is looking for personal glory at the expense of the overall mission, and his men. Had you complied and had the video supporting you, you would have had more people sympathetic to your cause - instead - you appear to be a radical, deliberately looking for confrontations and you WILL, not a matter of if, get someone shot or killed in these confrontations. As a second amendment advocate, I will at every opportunity, condemn you and your actions. This is not the way to effect change - there are and always will be other avenues then direct confrontations with law officers. Your phone the day before was an explicit call to challenge, and then you cry victim when they show up. sorry - not buying the bovine fecal matter that you espouse.

They both crossed the line. But Grisham and OTC crossed the line first. There was an ordinance that prohibited anyone other than a police officer from carrying a loaded rifle on public streets. Had Grisham complied with the lawful order enforcing the ordinance, he would have standing to sue to challenge the ordinance. Just because OTC believed the ordinance was unlawful, and even if they were right, that does not give them the right to ignore the police. He didn't comply and the police crossed the line and escalated the otherwise peaceful protest. And the police crossed another line trying to cover-up how they handled the situation. Even if the ordnance was unconstitutional, that does not make the order of the police trying to enforce the ordinance an unlawful order that can be ignored without consequence.

They should be fired and prosecuted. Stupid can’t be fixed.

Someone is about to settle out of court.

I am tired of people demanding people get fired because they don't like something they said. The guy was making a joke. Was it a joke in bad taste, most likely. If he actually does something like that, put his ass in jail. But this crap is out of control.

Did he have a DPS issued open carry permit? State law says you can legally open carry long guns not pistols unless you have an open carry license. He file a complaint with the State AG’s office in Austin for Offical Oppression and civil law suit the chief and the city.

If they keep this up they will find out what the French Revolution was like.

It's very sad when we have a 1SG push his personal platform here on RP. This is NOT Facebook. To the original poster, what point does this serve to enlighten those of us who come to RP for current, past & future camaraderie & memories? I am not an attorney, I pursue law as a hobby only, but common sense says that if they (cops, anyone, etc) point a gun at u & ARE in a position of authority, u comply but state you ARE doing so under duress, LOUDLY & CLEARLY! All that better so it can be heard. 1SG, do it your way, but know this: we fought for our rights already, we know how much reverence the govt has for our services----that being zilch, & a dead ex-soldier can't protest a damn thing!!!!! Compliance doesn't mean culpable. It's safety in numbers & a chance to win in court & fight another day. Having said this, I will explain that I am totally for open carry but prefer concealed carry, as no thug can take a weapon they can't see! Also, as one who has a temper, I personally don't carry at all, because IF I snapped, there literally would be a blood bath, & innocents DO NOT deserve such. Me & my PTSD prefer peace. On top of all this, I have challenged cops verbally but there weren't pointing a gun at me, their request was stupid & illogical, & I wasn't carrying any weapon, nor did they have reason to arrest me----this involved a downed tree in my yard & 1 cop asking me not to view the fallen end of said tree! Stand if u feel u must, but laws r not made to be broken. They are made to be challenged, if unreasonable, or illegal, in court. I have a great brain & the soul of the patriot that I am but I have also NEVER needed to carry a firearm to prove my point. We aren't in combat, so as u were, 1SG. That's my 2 cents & I am entitled to such. I live in GA.

Alert all the Veteran groups in Texas and the surrounding states, I’m sure a minimal of 700 is foreseen and would join a peaceful march in protest. If you get others involved the Governor has to launch an investigation. Remember, The Governor is like the president they serve at the will of the American people, not the other way around. Something the Mayor of Olmos Park had better learn fast. One thing sticks in my head. Those policemen who approached Grisham appeared to be Mexican or of Mexican heritage. My question would be first; are they “Legal” US American citizens? Second: Are they certified by the State Police Academy? Thirdly: Could it possibly be a case of reverse discrimination, being they were Brown skinned, Mexican looking using their authority as a basis for racism discrimination towards white people while holding a badge and working in law enforcement? Something I’d have my Cop hating liberal attorney look into.

What is your specific question?