Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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Wow - holy cow, thanks for sharing this. I stand with you “conflicting feelings”
Tazed- that bothers me.
Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right of people to bear arms & was adopted December 15, 1791. (Is worth fighting for?)
Kate the FREE civilian -
Question *Open Carry - how do we define responsible (safety 1st) gun owners? Not to provoke anger issues - but are all “cops” responsible open carry badges?
Tazed- that bothers me.
Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right of people to bear arms & was adopted December 15, 1791. (Is worth fighting for?)
Kate the FREE civilian -
Question *Open Carry - how do we define responsible (safety 1st) gun owners? Not to provoke anger issues - but are all “cops” responsible open carry badges?
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Yes, the open carry law is in their favor. However, in this case Grisham violated a request to get down on the ground. If he had obeyed that order instead of resisting it. He would have one hell of a case for unlawful detainment and or arrest.
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I use to be with a sheriff's office . Many officers have a god problem in their head . They are right and for the most part it is difficult to get an officer busted for an 'illegal' arrest . He will just say ' i did not know ' and judges go along with it and will slap their hands . These guys should have been smarter and known better .
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They need to sue the living shit out of that entire department AND file a formal complaint against that department to their state officials and the federal DOJ and FBI - IF all that was written is true.
I would like to see the video, are there any links available?
I would like to see the video, are there any links available?
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What site is the video located on? From what I am reading this department from the Chief down is a train wreck. But would need to see exactly what happened to verify.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
Olmos Park Police Chief Phone Call (Tyrant Alert)
This is a recording of my phone call with the Olmos Park POlice Chief. I wanted to find out what their procedure was dealing with open carriers after several...
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
Olmos Park Police Chief UNLAWFUL arrest CJ Grisham
This is the UNEDITED Facebook Live (with comments) of the Olmos Park Police Chief commiting a FELONY by slamming CJ Grisham to the ground and tasing him when...
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2LT Corey Watson
SSG Leake thank you for both videos. As a military officer and current police captain both of these videos are disturbing to me. Very disturbing I don’t even know where to begin. But I will say that the mentality of any department starts at the top.This Chief needs to go down hard as well as ANY supervisor that was on the scene prior to the Chiefs arrival. Hopefully justice will prevail in this case.
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the officers were enforcing the local ordinance (that has been repealed) at the time. they probably could and should have found a better way to de-escalate or choose not to enforce that one ordinance but...
Not sure if it can be an illegal arrest since they were enforcing something that was on the books but broke state law.
Not sure if it can be an illegal arrest since they were enforcing something that was on the books but broke state law.
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Lawsuit against the city and police for violating their oaths, and violating US and Texas Constitutional rights, and criminal charges against the officers using excessive force while violating the law.
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