Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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My first thought was outrage at the violation and assumption of guilt. Then I thought back to what I would tell someone who gets pulled over in a car for some unknown reason - be respectful and follow the commands of the officers. If they overstep their authority, then they will answer in court. Who knows how this would have played out if they had simply cooperated with the officers.
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My thoughts are why create a possible "shoot out "situation. Concealed carry is usually safest method. Never argue with someone who KNOWS THEY ARE CORRECT and has a loaded weapon. Call the real police is best.................
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Am somewhat familiar with the City of Olmos Park. It's a small incorporated community on the NE side of San Antonio, popular with attorneys for its proximity to downtown SA and the Bexar County courthouse. SA has a number of similar communities, each with its own city government (mayor & city council) and tiny police force. (I spent a couple of years on the council of a similar community on the NW side of SA; we had a police chief & two patrolmen whose principal duty was to enforce the speed limit on the only road through town. Traffic fines were a major source of revenue, since our speed limit was 30 mph and all around us it was at least 45 mph.)
I don't know Mr. Grisham nor am I at all familiar with his organization, but I'll offer an opinion anyway. Mr. Grisham seems to have deliberately challenged the Olmos Park officials in the hope of provoking an aggressive response, perhaps for the publicity, maybe hoping to generate new members for his group. I don't really know his motivation. But to openly challenge a peace officer with a badge & a firearm on his home turf was not a smart thing to do. I have good friends who are retired LEOs: a Texas Ranger, an FBI agent and an SAPD officer. They all retired honorably, but they didn't live to their 70s by being stupid. I suspect the citizens of Olmos Park would support their police chief in his efforts to neutralize any outsiders who showed up openly displaying firearms.
I don't know Mr. Grisham nor am I at all familiar with his organization, but I'll offer an opinion anyway. Mr. Grisham seems to have deliberately challenged the Olmos Park officials in the hope of provoking an aggressive response, perhaps for the publicity, maybe hoping to generate new members for his group. I don't really know his motivation. But to openly challenge a peace officer with a badge & a firearm on his home turf was not a smart thing to do. I have good friends who are retired LEOs: a Texas Ranger, an FBI agent and an SAPD officer. They all retired honorably, but they didn't live to their 70s by being stupid. I suspect the citizens of Olmos Park would support their police chief in his efforts to neutralize any outsiders who showed up openly displaying firearms.
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Sounds like an over reaction that grew out of a lack of appropriate and sufficient training, leaving the officer in a position of not knowing which decision to make and ultimately making the wrong one.
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This is a situation that the court has to decide here. IF it is a fact the people arrested were carrying weapons LEGALLY, then the cop was in the wrong. But like I said, the COURT has to decide this one.
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I am a former Washington County Deputy Sheriff, and this sounds like a case of excessive force due to the officers failure to correctly access the situation at hand.
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Texas has changed A LOT in the last ten to fifteen years. It has become more "progressively liberal" and the idea that most people have of the "Texas way" is becoming a thing of the past. I've lived there in the early 80's and recently again. I traveled all over Texas for work and believe me, the WHOLE state is changing.
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WITAF is happening in this country? When a liberal openly and purposely breaks the law and the media is completely silent about it. It's almost if its not on the news, then it all good. Since when is rioting and looting not against the law but, protecting one's self from that activity can get you arrested? This police chief needs to be held accountable for injuring an innocent person! The police chief needs to be jailed for assault that ended with injury! dang-it!
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I totally disagree with the police actions from an ethics and lawful perspective. But Grisham is provoker, looks for conflict, and uses his military service to shield him and hide behind. He has no credibility with me.
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