Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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Qualified immunity is written for what we as humans aspire to be (it assumes we will act with integrity and honor when no one is watching) it doesn’t account for the frail egos of a lot of us when we are confronted by some unwilling to bend to demands that are unconstitutional.
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This should now be a matter for the Courts. Our Justice System provides that, after Law Enforcement has acted, the actions of all involved may be put before the scrutiny of the Court; at this point, a judge will need to decide, unless there is also a jury involved at which point it becomes a team effort.
The accused need to be careful and meticulous in their defense. They are innocent until proven guilty. With that said, the State Prosecutor will do what has to be done to make that happen. That's the job. Now, the Defense Attorney needs to figure out a strategy to bring the truth of the matter into the courtroom.
The phone conversation might be a good place to start. Also, LEO body-camera records would be helpful. Normally, I support Law Enforcement; we all should. In this case, the Court needs to sort this out and render a judgement.
The accused need to be careful and meticulous in their defense. They are innocent until proven guilty. With that said, the State Prosecutor will do what has to be done to make that happen. That's the job. Now, the Defense Attorney needs to figure out a strategy to bring the truth of the matter into the courtroom.
The phone conversation might be a good place to start. Also, LEO body-camera records would be helpful. Normally, I support Law Enforcement; we all should. In this case, the Court needs to sort this out and render a judgement.
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Even in "red" states you have "blue" pockets and Bexar County is on of those "blue" pockets. For all of those saying "well he should have known that was going to happen even though he could" .. shame! For too long the 2nd Amendment has been treated like an afterthought right.. it is not! It is no more less important than any of the ten (yes ten) that make up the Bill of Rights and the additional Amendments henceforth. Whenever you hear folks saying they are after your guns and the 2nd and you discount them, you need to remember these moments and reconsider your thoughts because every time they get away with stuff like this or the b.s. of "closing loopholes" or "commonsense gunlaw" what ever it is just one more chip off of your rights that they have gotten away with and are moving on to the next. Pretty soon you'll be stuck holding the tootsie roll pop lollipop stick after Mister Owl showed you it took three bites to get to the center.
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With the rise in domestic terrorism in the last few years and a failed insurrection on January 6 of this year, I suspect that protesting while armed is a thing of the past. If a riot breaks out during your protest, how do the police know which people carrying guns are the GOOD guys?
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And this is why I am no fan of the police. They do not care about the law nor your constitutional rights.
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Hates the problem with idiots in Texas... democrats don't give a fuck about rights or the constitution until it benefits them. These liberal shitbags are why Texas is running to the sewers
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MSG Brian Keene
Clearly, you’re NOT familiar with Texas politics. Democrats AREN’T in power in Texas.
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SPC Steven Nihipali
MSG Brian Keene ha! I, yes they are... in every single major city, inside and around San Antonio, where this took place. Maybe you're not as up and up as you claim to be. I live in San Antonio and know exactly where this took place. No police chief and any jurisdiction around this liberal shithole wants OCT and has openly discouraged any citizen to take part in the activities... but I guess I'm not up and up
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Normally I would agree with the "just comply crowd" but unfortunately I can't. Our legal system is too screwed up to believe your rights will be protected. Cops lie and forge paperwork, cops will lie on the stand, some cops don't care about the law only their verison of it like in this case. I took a oath to defended the constitution, I did not take oath to defend police departments or political party just the constitution as it is written not how I choose to interpret it. So thanks to years of dirty cops, illegal police killings of citizens, illegal search and seizures, cops raping women on duty,cops beating their wives and cops planting evidence, they can not be blindly trusted. I have friends who are LEO'S, so I'm not anti-police but my trust in them as a whole is at all-time low. I share the same beliefs as a LEO, I will protect myself and family at all cost regardless of a badge or who the person is threatening my safety or my family safety. Have a blessed day everyone.
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Sue the Doo Doo out of them and make them an example of how idiots should be treated. Getting fired is too little too late for this police dept.
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