Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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PO3 Aviation Electronics Technician
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No they won’t kiddo. Unless you’re going in for something crazy that requires them to dig into your medical history then they won’t bother really. I know a guy whose an E-6 and he came in knowing that he had a minor case of skin cancer and waited about 5-6 months after boot to bring it up. If you are not sure about continuing because of something that doesn’t matter then it’s best you find something else to do besides the military because people who are unsure at first tend to not like it.
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CW4 Craig Urban
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Yes
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MSG Robert Conrad
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First who is "they"? The Army? Nobody has access to your preservice records except you. Under HIPPA not even the Army can request them without a signed release, which you did sign when you enlisted on the security questionnaire, but rarely does anyone ever think to use it, most people are not even aware it exists. The VA doesnt care. The only records that matter are the one of record as far as the VA is concerned. The Army is different, if you make a statement, they can use it against you. The VA cannot, by law, use a statement you make UNLESS it is in your interest to do so. It's just the way the law is written, which is another oddity concerning the VA rules. The last thing to know is that IF you were seen as a military dependent, those record ARE OF record. They can be located by the government because these exist in your military sponsors record, usually the personnel record if they separate, or retire. I am unsure what your concern is, being found out as not truthful, or that you have a serious heart condition. Congenital heart murmurs are common, and rarely indicative of a serious condition. Your integrity is another issue, that is a much greater flaw in my book.
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SSG Richard Rushing
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John Kellen, if you knowingly lied, you need to put a gag over your own mouth and double-time your ads to the shower and commence to waterboarding yourself until the truth comes out or your momma makes you stop. Just Damn son... Get down and push mother earth away from your butt until I say when.
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PO2 Jeanette Lawson
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well well dude seeing that you lie which most wait til they have grown up the chain of command so this is a screw up for you. Then you go on the web and not the black web to state such screw up is just pilling the duke. My question is are you having second thoughts as to ur enlisting, and this would be ur easy way out? Remember no money amount can replace ur reputation, its reflects ur honor. Your statement is so unbecoming and fraudulent enlistment. I vote for not to serve
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Cpl Toni Beltrano
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You will get into trouble. You lied on a government application and to a government official. They will go back and look in your records.
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1SG Infantryman
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I would say this. You not only have lied and shown that you do not possess the personal integrity to soldier but, now you enter into a forum trying to find a way around your admission to falsifying federal documents. Your skills do not prevent you from being successful in life but, DO prevent you to having what it takes to be a Soldier. I would ask you to own and admit to your mistake and find you another profession to enter. You lied to get in to something. My questions are how many lies will you tell to get out of something or tell to benefit your personal agenda. From my perspective, bow out.
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SPC John Cardwell
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You NEVER lied?
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It was a lie by omission. He knew about it and then denied it. So, yeah, he did.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Ha-ha-ha, this reminds me of the troops that used to write into another Military website I would participate on. "I went AWOL about 6 months ago......." from Moosehead Maine or Buffalo Jaw, Montana, where all you had to do was look at the guys IP address on the backend to see where approx they are living now. The Chief Mod worked for the Provost Marshall on a major Active Duty post. And this just kept repeating over and over and over again.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Just say you thought you would grow out of it.
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Honesty is the best policy.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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SGT (Join to see) - Sometimes people grow out of their medical ailments.
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MAJ Ken Landgren - I understand some do... but he clearly said he didn't. Lies have a way of coming ack and biting you in the ass... look at what's is finally occurring with 45.
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CPL Rob Hansen
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This is actually a funny story. My father was a Vietnam war hero type. As a physician he was a graduate of one of the first classes at the JFK Special Warfare School. He did two tours and came back with a promotion and a chest full of real medals bronze star, legion of merit etc. he was also a major at that point. Remember he started as a captain because he was an md. Anyway I’m going to cut this short my senior year of college the amry came to my at school and offered me a job in intelligence. I had published research in my field and I was seventh day Adventist. Back then they liked conservative Christian types, I wasn’t really one. I had me no training so I had to go through basic training just like anyone but I had one problem. I had asthma. So my dad had his pharmacist fill cologne and mouthwash bottles with various medications all of which made me weak as a cat. During basic training I was so afraid of being thrown out I abused these drugs making the side effects even worse do bad that they were about to throw me out. Consequently I ran out of the medication rather quickly. I remember passing the drill instructors table one day where I heard them talking about me. One of them actually said all that California boy needed was three meals a day and some exercise and look at him now. I still laugh about that finish basic training drug free and realized I probably had out grown my asthma years ago.
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