Posted on Jun 23, 2019
SPC Jared Kline
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Is there anywhere that would possible still have a copy of my award? I have called my Troop's S-1 and they told me they couldn't help me. I've contacted HRC, it isn't on iPerms at all ( almost nothing is except basic training and airborne school.), and I have even resorted to asking my state senator for help. He couldn't find anything either. Is there anything I am missing?
I was stationed at Fort Bragg, NC. 82nd Airborne Division. 1st BCT, 3-73Cav Alpha Troop. Attached to the scout unit as an 11C.
Please help, I really don't want to admit that there is no proof of the most important / terrible thing that I have been involved in.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Often orders for awards have multiple soldiers listed. Contact soliders in your unit who received award in the same timeframe as you. See if you are on the same order. Off chance but you never know.
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SPC Jared Kline
SPC Jared Kline
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That is great news! I will definitely do that! Thank you so much.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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SGT Joseph Cabra - me too, as well as CABs.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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SPC Jared Kline - if they were involved the same qualifying incident but don't have you listed on their orders, see if they'll write a witness statement to the effect of you being there and otherwise involved in the action that satisfies the CIB criteria in 600-8-22. Two should be sufficient to retroactively award the badge. Para 1-14 or 1-15 in 600-8-22 outlines procedures.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Edited 6 y ago
SPC Jared Kline the issuing HQ was your Brigade. CIB and CAB orders are in a format 200 permanent orders. It doesn't look like anything. It's half a sheet of plain 8 1/2 x 11 letter paper, likely signed by the Adjutant at Brigade S1. There is no big flashy certificate. If someone shows you theirs, it was obtained commercially and not an official document. AR600-8-22 para 10-11 authorizes a certificate for the badge but doesn't specify. I haven't seen it done that way in practice. Your Troop won't know anything unless someone who was there with you remembers. The issuing HQ are supposed to retain said orders, hence permanent orders. If your Brigade deactivated or realigned, then Division G1 would have their legacy records. I.e. 1st Brigade 82d now may not have been 1st Brigade 82d in the past.

Was the CIB listed on your DD214? That should make the next step easier. Also that should suffice for any burden of proof that you were there.

NPRC doesn't have your records either? Google NPRC vetrecs. Request a complete set of you records from NPRC.

If that doesn't work, look at AR 600-8-22, get two witness statements describing the actions IAW 600-8-22 and submit a request for the decoration from HRC. Be sure to include that you'd already been awarded the CIB but never got the permanent orders.
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Edited 6 y ago
Hmm, you could try this as well. I know it says "Awards and Decorations" but anything is worth a shot if it means that much to you, which I'm sure it does. I would imagine they are kept on record somewhere, seeing how the CIB is a badge protected by the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. The government would need some recoverable way to verify they exist, aside from a single physical copy of the orders that a Soldier might lose.

https://www.archives.gov/veterans/replace-medals
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