Posted on Jan 23, 2018
I will be submitting my voluntary reclassify packet this week. Which path is best, 12B Combat Engineer or 19D Cavalry scout?
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12B and 19D are currently short and taking E5 sergeants for voluntary reclass. My goal has always been to reclass to 11B but was told I couldn't twice. The above MOS's are the closest to it so i'd like to take advantage of this opportunity and finally make this career change that I should've made after my first term. I am highly interested in the above two MOS's but I would like to know from leaders which MOS is the better choice and who spends more time training on their craft. A little insight on the day to day operations would be much appreciated as well. Thank you in advance.
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12B: Combat Engineer
Combat Engineer OSUT (12B)
19D: Cavalry Scout
Cavalry Scout OSUT (19D)
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12B: Combat Engineer Combat Engineer OSUT (12B) 19D: Cavalry Scout Cavalry Scout OSUT (19D) Reclass
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Way back in the beginning of our country Scouts (19D), Engineers (12B) and MP's (31B) were the same JOB ('MOS' no numbers) , called PIONEERS.
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For the Commander - When scouting, Pioneers sought pathways, identified key terrain and resources so as to guide unit’s movement through the terrain.. They reported enemy locations, probable courses of action and reported on their 'condition'. They maintained contact.
Once the commander determined his Course of Action, some Pioneers became 'Engineers' to make roads for movement of forces, heavy guns and support trains, which included identification of critical slopes, fords, and obstacles. They leveled steep slopes, 'stoned' the ford travel way and cleared obstacles. In the retreat build positions, wreaked roads/fords/made embankments. All this was in order to assist the commander in the development and implementation of his plan.
Pioneers, to facilitate the commander's plan, also had some that became 'Provosts'. These would outpost (OPs) enemy routes of advance, provide flank and rear security. They would perform as Guides and in some cases relay orders and responses levels of command as couriers. They would hold prisoners and after the fight, 'Police the Battlefield' by capturing enemy soldiers and ensuring lost soldiers reintegrated with the units. They would also set up CCPs (Casualty Collection Points).
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If you look at the different MOSs of 19D, 12B and 31B you will see that the Primary MOS tasks for one are the secondary tasks of the others.
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Decide which skills you want to do more and choose that MOS.
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For the Commander - When scouting, Pioneers sought pathways, identified key terrain and resources so as to guide unit’s movement through the terrain.. They reported enemy locations, probable courses of action and reported on their 'condition'. They maintained contact.
Once the commander determined his Course of Action, some Pioneers became 'Engineers' to make roads for movement of forces, heavy guns and support trains, which included identification of critical slopes, fords, and obstacles. They leveled steep slopes, 'stoned' the ford travel way and cleared obstacles. In the retreat build positions, wreaked roads/fords/made embankments. All this was in order to assist the commander in the development and implementation of his plan.
Pioneers, to facilitate the commander's plan, also had some that became 'Provosts'. These would outpost (OPs) enemy routes of advance, provide flank and rear security. They would perform as Guides and in some cases relay orders and responses levels of command as couriers. They would hold prisoners and after the fight, 'Police the Battlefield' by capturing enemy soldiers and ensuring lost soldiers reintegrated with the units. They would also set up CCPs (Casualty Collection Points).
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If you look at the different MOSs of 19D, 12B and 31B you will see that the Primary MOS tasks for one are the secondary tasks of the others.
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Decide which skills you want to do more and choose that MOS.
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sir, Infantry with the 75th Rangers, and commissioning as an officer in SF. Then working with JSOC.
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COL Charles Williams
SSG (Join to see) - 12B and 19D are not close, and will not get you to the Ranger Regiment. They have a few Engineers at the Regimental HQ, but likely no 19Ds... If you commission, you will need to something else, before you move to SF. You can't do SF or Ranger Regiment as 2LT.
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Sir, I’m tracking there aren’t any 19D positions in the 75th, however I have submitted my reclass packet for 19D.
My plan is to get to Ranger school as soon as I get to my new unit(if the reclass goes through) that way in two years time I’ll submit a 4187 over to 11B and put in a RASP packet. Then hopefully I’ll be finished with my degree by the time by term in the 75th is up. Then I’ll put in an OCS packet or green to gold(not sure yet), and commission into the Engineer branch. Once I’m eligible (1LT P, I believe), I will attend SFAS.
I know things don’t always turn out the way we want them to but I’m striving to follow that plan because the above are goals/dreams of mine. I can’t imagine myself doing anything else in the Military.
My plan is to get to Ranger school as soon as I get to my new unit(if the reclass goes through) that way in two years time I’ll submit a 4187 over to 11B and put in a RASP packet. Then hopefully I’ll be finished with my degree by the time by term in the 75th is up. Then I’ll put in an OCS packet or green to gold(not sure yet), and commission into the Engineer branch. Once I’m eligible (1LT P, I believe), I will attend SFAS.
I know things don’t always turn out the way we want them to but I’m striving to follow that plan because the above are goals/dreams of mine. I can’t imagine myself doing anything else in the Military.
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