Posted on Apr 19, 2020
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I have been in the Active Reserves for 17 years. My contract expires in September.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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If you go IRR, you won't receive the amount of points needed each year to have a good year, and thus will stop earning years creditable towards retirement.
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SFC, I feel that this comment may not be entirely true, and may be a product of false information you may have received by way of anecdotes. I have heard my own anecdotes (online, admittedly) of many soldiers receiving their required 50 points per year in the IRR (even after the rules change). If even one of those anecdotes are true, then it is possible. Even if it takes longer than three years.
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SGT (Join to see) - you expect sitting at home doing nothing to count as a "good year"? What commander is making that determination? What paperwork is being submitted to verify attendance and points? How many UTA's and MUTA's are you receiving credit for? Under what UIC? Give it some thought...
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SFC, you are ascribing false expectations onto me with this comment: "you expect sitting at home doing nothing to count as a "good year"?" As I said before, I don't believe anything is free in life. My only expectation is to work for what I receive, just like in my productive endeavors--same in the military. I would like to give it thought, but first I need information. I know that I can figure out a way to make it happen if I learn the system.
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Review your points statement.
The fact that you think this is a good plan leads me to believe you may not understand what a "good year" is, you may be farther from retirement than you think
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By the way Sir, I did review my points statement on the HRC website. I currently have 16 good years, and by July of this year I will have 17.
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"The fact that you think this is a good plan leads me to believe you may not understand what a "good year" is, you may be farther from retirement than you think"

Sir, would you give the same advice to me, having now read the vignette by the Colonel below, who states "...I retired in 2016 as a Colonel. I was an IRR Soldier the whole time. I ended up with 27 qualifying years out of 30. It can be done but it takes a lot of determination and you have to catch a few breaks."

I am obviously not an Officer, but there are more paths to retirement than many of us would be lead to believe. Also, in my original post, I did not mean to say that I would want to retire in exactly three years after being in the IRR. Only that I want to complete the three remaining years there, rather than actively drilling, and being subject to further life-altering deployments of which I have had my fair share.

Disclaimer: I understand that as an IRR soldier, I would still be subject to recall and/or deployment, but I have heard that since the peak years of GWOT, the need to call up IRR soldiers has not been as much and is quite uncommon, especially with my MOS being over-strength for the time being and the draw-down in Afghanistan and Syria.
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SGT (Join to see) If you can catch enough exercises to get a good year great but it's a lot of leg work and a risk if they don't have one you can do. Have you considered IMA? You can do all of your drills / AT at once and do nothing the rest of the year. It's programmed that way so you don't have to fight for your points.

I'm also not a fan of traditional drilling units. I can't seem to find a new position i can get excited about. Once you have 20 good years, they don't matter anymore only points do.

Good luck, but it's a risk, I recommend IMA.
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Sir, I have only heard of IMA in name, but never really looked into it. It might be something to look into, but only if my civilian job would be open to it. In the job I'm looking to get onboarded into, most of the employees are current and/or former military members, and carve-outs are made for them to perform their required duty. But that usually amounts to being given enough time to attend drill (travel to and from) and Annual Training. I don't know how long of a block of continuous time IMA duty would amount to, but if I can convince the employer to allow it, I would like to learn more about that possibility.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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The points aren’t there. If that were the case folks could chill in IRR for years and draw a pension. Short cuts rarely provide solutions to anything. Enjoy your drills.
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SFC Jeremy Boyd - I knew a guy many years ago that had been in the guard for 15 years as a SPC, he owned his own business and was a millionaire. He was just in the guard because he felt it was part of his civic duty to give a little back. He just liked showing up at drill and being one of the guys instead of the boss. Our BN CO at the time was actually one of his employees.
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SGM, I have been 'enjoying my drills' thus far. However I just got a job in intelligence in the greater DC area, which means that going to Battle Assembly with my good friends for a decade won't be possible for the nonce. I don't believe that anything is free in life. I know that everything must be earned. I was just under the impression that points toward a good year were possible in the IRR. Thank you for your reply
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"The points aren't there". SGM, what about the Colonel below, who gives his own vignette: "Despite never having a company command, a battalion command, Army Staff time, a TPU assignment or any of the normal career paths, I retired in 2016 as a Colonel. I was an IRR Soldier the whole time. I ended up with 27 qualifying years out of 30. It can be done but it takes a lot of determination and you have to catch a few breaks." Apparently points are possible to get in the IRR. They are just harder to come bye, especially since the rules change of a few years ago. I'm creative, I can find a way. Even if it means staying in the IRR for longer than three years.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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I will assume this points were earned by rounding out units duringvdeployments and other support roles more frequently than not. Thank you, SGT (Join to see)
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