Posted on Jun 15, 2019
If a POG, awarded with a CAB (combat action badge), were to transfer to Infantry, would the soldier be authorized to wear the CIB?
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SGT Beth Day
SFC Jeff Duncan - Women were in combat long before we were "supposed to be". Decades ago, I had a roommate who had been a Navy medical type in Vietnam. Now, she was supposed to be hospital duty only. But, one day the call came to go and get wounded soldiers ... she was the only one available and she went. Lost a chunk of her leg that day. Never got the deserved Purple Heart (well, hopefully by now) because she wasn't supposed to be there. The Navy discharged her and the Army let her in. My mother and grandmother both served in WWII. Neither one of them were near combat but both knew women who were "too close for comfort." My mother, who was a WAVE, had a nurse friend who had been at Pearl Harbor.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
SGT Beth Day - I really find it hard to believe a Sailor was discharged because she was wounded. Any Documentation? I would really love to know more! Thanks
I met a number of The Battle of Anzio Vets and know at least one Army Nurse who wore a purple heart.
I met a number of The Battle of Anzio Vets and know at least one Army Nurse who wore a purple heart.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
SGT Beth Day - It is because of the heroism of medics, that the infantry pushed for medics to get the Combat Medical Badge. They were upset that their medics were not eligible for their badge. A compromise was made and the Combat Medical Badge was created.
For the CIB, you must hold an infantry MOS AND be assigned to an infantry Unit, at the time of being awarded.
The requirements are VERY SPECIFIC.
For the CIB, you must hold an infantry MOS AND be assigned to an infantry Unit, at the time of being awarded.
The requirements are VERY SPECIFIC.
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SGT Beth Day
CMDCM Gene Treants - Well, I don't have "documentation". She was my roommate for a while in Germany. This was more than 40 years ago. But she definitely had the scars and the metal piece in her leg. And she showed me her Navy discharge papers and she WAS a medic. As she told it, it was because she was someplace she wasn't supposed to be ... but there was no one else to go. I don't actually know if the Navy discharged her because she was wounded, or she was just discharged naturally. But she was definitely an ex-Navy medic, with a messed up leg, in the Army. That's all I got.
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No you have to be an infantryman engaged in combat with the enemy to be awarded a CIB. Said SM would wear the CAB until he engages an enemy as an infantryman
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TSgt (Join to see)
SP5 Ralph Arvizu - Well stated SP5 Ralph Arvizu . As an arial scout 11D, I noticed that until somebody is KIA or WIA there is no recognition for what we did everyday, day after day.
That is of course as you stated REMFs with good clerks were the exception.
I received an Air Medal w/V when my wing bird (OH6A) was shot down. The only difference that day from everyother day, sadly somebody died.
That is of course as you stated REMFs with good clerks were the exception.
I received an Air Medal w/V when my wing bird (OH6A) was shot down. The only difference that day from everyother day, sadly somebody died.
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SGT George Edward Brown
SPC Edward Logan - DOES THE 30 DAY RULE STILL APPLY ?? I WENT TO VN AS A 12-P REPLACEMENT, ASSIGNED TO THE INFANTRY SQUAD OF A VERY LIGHT CAV TROOP, AFTER 30DAYS MY MOS WAS CHANGED TO 11B4P AND SOON EARNED THE CIB. DIFFERENT TIMES MAYBE DIFFERENT RULES ? THE CAB DIDN'Y EXIST AT THAT TIME.
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SSG Michael Doolittle
In Vietnam you had to be in combat 30 days to be awarded a CIB. Now it is 24 hours I think. A joke to all who got theirs the old fashioned way, they earned it
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SFC Shawn Warren
Roger that gentlemen.
However, we should help train the force so I would include a little bit more context for the SPC to become a really good NCO.
Guidance for a young troop might look like:
the criteria set for the CIB and the CAB are different. See AR 600-8-22, CH 8, Sec 2, CIB = 8-6, Pg. 96 a., (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(a)(b) and so on.
CAB = 8-8 Pg. 101 a., b., c. (1)(2)(3)(4) and so on.
AR-670-1 will let you know how to wear any badge you rate on your uniform.
Finally SPC, you might be a Person Other Than A Grunt (POG) but all 11B's know "One Team One Fight!"
V/R
SFC Shawn Mark Warren, USA, RET.
Antrorsum Hostium and Semper Prorsum!
Front Toward The Enemy and Always Forward!
However, we should help train the force so I would include a little bit more context for the SPC to become a really good NCO.
Guidance for a young troop might look like:
the criteria set for the CIB and the CAB are different. See AR 600-8-22, CH 8, Sec 2, CIB = 8-6, Pg. 96 a., (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(a)(b) and so on.
CAB = 8-8 Pg. 101 a., b., c. (1)(2)(3)(4) and so on.
AR-670-1 will let you know how to wear any badge you rate on your uniform.
Finally SPC, you might be a Person Other Than A Grunt (POG) but all 11B's know "One Team One Fight!"
V/R
SFC Shawn Mark Warren, USA, RET.
Antrorsum Hostium and Semper Prorsum!
Front Toward The Enemy and Always Forward!
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CDR David Troutman
I like the colonel's answer. In the Navy we would say, when in doubt, read reference (a) and it will answer almost all of your questions.
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SSG William Hommel
SSG David Milholen - In my years, that was either RTM or RTFM depending how many times you were asked.
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