Posted on Jun 15, 2019
SPC Jomel-Michael Baysa II
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CSM Charles Hayden
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What a silly question!
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SPC Daniel Dresen
SPC Daniel Dresen
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SGT Mark Burns IF you were engaged and returned fire in the completion of your duties, so long as you hold the MOS of infantryman, a squared away S-1 would be preparing a CIB. A half assed one would do a CAB. Smart admin would say, yep, he maintains his infantry training satisfactorily and was performing his assigned unit duties while actively engaging the enemy, give him a CIB. The debate comes to one line...

Be an infantryman satisfactorily performing infantry duties.

You met criteria 2 and 3 but a lazy admin would interpret your primary MOS as being excluding, it's not.
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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SPC Daniel Dresen - There are many who cannot be "educated" -- which absolutely includes trolls and fools.
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SPC Daniel Dresen
SPC Daniel Dresen
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MSG Thomas Currie regardless, a leader should attempt to educate. By blatantly going "what a silly question" you cease being a leader and tow the line at authoritarian. That's the sign of toxic "leadership".
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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SPC Daniel Dresen - Thank you so much for the leadership lessons, clearly you have more troop leading knowledge and experience than the rest of us.
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SGT(P) Air Operations And Training Ncoic (S3 Air)
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No you have to be an infantryman engaged in combat with the enemy to be awarded a CIB. Said SM would wear the CAB until he engages an enemy as an infantryman
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SGT Kenneth Potts
SGT Kenneth Potts
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If he were to reclass to infantry, and earn a CIB, he could wear both.
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SPC Stephan Adams
SPC Stephan Adams
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I was a cook and recieved one in 05 after coming home from iraq.
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SSG Jeff Dancinger
SSG Jeff Dancinger
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SPC Stephan Adams - Your lucky. I was also in Iraq in 2005, I returned fire from my Guard Duty post while a patrol was being attacked on MSR Tampa in front of Taji Miliary Base in Iraq and never recieved a CAB. I put in my report once in theatre and once at home and nothing. The response to the in theatre report was "we are not going to give out any more CABs. In the State of Kansas, it was just denied.
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SPC Stephan Adams
SPC Stephan Adams
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That's bull... your unit obviously didn't give a shit.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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No. Source AR600-8-22.
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CW3 Terry Gile
CW3 Terry Gile
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<---(Guilty of the blah, blah, blah...gets windy as a bag full of A-holes sometimes)
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SFC Shawn Warren
SFC Shawn Warren
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Roger that gentlemen.
However, we should help train the force so I would include a little bit more context for the SPC to become a really good NCO.
Guidance for a young troop might look like:
the criteria set for the CIB and the CAB are different. See AR 600-8-22, CH 8, Sec 2, CIB = 8-6, Pg. 96 a., (1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(a)(b) and so on.
CAB = 8-8 Pg. 101 a., b., c. (1)(2)(3)(4) and so on.
AR-670-1 will let you know how to wear any badge you rate on your uniform.
Finally SPC, you might be a Person Other Than A Grunt (POG) but all 11B's know "One Team One Fight!"
V/R
SFC Shawn Mark Warren, USA, RET.
Antrorsum Hostium and Semper Prorsum!
Front Toward The Enemy and Always Forward!
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SSG David Milholen
SSG David Milholen
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If All else fails read the manual +1
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CDR David Troutman
CDR David Troutman
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I like the colonel's answer. In the Navy we would say, when in doubt, read reference (a) and it will answer almost all of your questions.
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