Posted on Jun 15, 2019
If a POG, awarded with a CAB (combat action badge), were to transfer to Infantry, would the soldier be authorized to wear the CIB?
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You have to be an Infantryman and have engaged the enemy in combat as such in order to wear that.
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CIB is awarded to infantrymen who are engaged with the enemy in combat and perform their duties satisfactorily.
CAB is awarded to non-infantry personnel engaged with the enemy in combat.
The process of being awarded these aforementioned badges is prescribed in the relevant Army Regs. Please reference the regulation.
CAB is awarded to non-infantry personnel engaged with the enemy in combat.
The process of being awarded these aforementioned badges is prescribed in the relevant Army Regs. Please reference the regulation.
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I was an Infantryman for my first enlistment and then went into the Intelligence field until I retired. I never considered myself any less a soldier. Recently I was asked by a young soldier why I "became a Pog" after my time in the Infantry. I was surprised at how offended I got but then I figured it wasn't worth the energy to further engage. I was shot at more as a GS 13 doing Intel work in Iraq than I was any time on Active Duty. That may have something to do with it. In closing I and truly proud of earning my Blue Braid at Ft Polk's North Fort "Tigerland" in 1974. I'm just as proud of my time as an Intelligence Professional.
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Umm no. I have both the CIB from when I was down range as a infantryman and switched to MP went down range again and was awarded the CAB
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The problem with Super Privates is they think they know what has, and is going on with the Army. Using OIF2 for example, the Division I was in had to task organize the , FA and AR Bdes into trucks and they were kicking doors and running Infantry missions along with cross attached Infantry and vice a versa in the other Bdes. Bigger picture,the HETT units were doing 90 day rotations, 90 days apart. Then getting shot to shit dragging armor from one end of Iraq to the other. Convoy Escort units, which could be ANY type of unit up to an including Air Force or Navy, ran up and down these Hundreds of Kms long Kill Zones called roads, fighting to survive constantly. As the rules are written, only Infantry assigned to Bde or lower can get the CIB(This includes Infantry POGs sitting at Bde level that never left the wire their entire tour). So in light of this, the CAB was developed to recognize the fact that EVERYONE was getting their arse shot at in the original decades years of the GWOT. Only clowns that call Poland or Kuwait a deployment would make fun of it or the person wearing it. Also SPC, I truly hope you and all the other service personnel of our great country NEVER get a chance to earn either. Instead, you prevent conflicts through strength.Edit 2) Yes they would because they are a non 11 series such as a cook, armor etc. Now if they managed to become Inf certified, deployed to a conflict, thenI suspect they would change over to the CIB
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I am still in awe of the work our logisticians and transporters did in Iraq. Those same individuals you refer to as POGs, eventually attend SFAS. They bring their skills beyond Small Unit Tactics and they make the Regiment even better than before.
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No.
Awards are not transferable across job descriptions.
Sometimes I don’t understand these forms, because as available as all of the uniform, standards and award standards are online, yet I guess it’s just easier to come on here and ask.
Yes, I am an older generation that didn’t have access to the regulations at the tips of my fingers.
Do you think an infantryman awarded an CIB/EIB would be eligible to where the CAB if he transferred to non combat arms?
I know you’re thinking, “why would he?” But as a tactical intelligence op who proved his worth on the battlefield more than a few times, it’s this kind of crap that gets under my skin.
Maybe I’m reading the disrespect into the question and if so, my apologies.
In my line of work, I had opportunities to support special operations forces, joint forces to include fast mover coordination, asymmetrical warfare and basically all the special types who want to know where enemy radios are and what they are saying.
I can’t say I’ve never encountered it, but most of the special folks were highly appreciate of of the support people around them.
There were a few Rah-rah douche bags, but they were the exception rather than the rule.
Awards are not transferable across job descriptions.
Sometimes I don’t understand these forms, because as available as all of the uniform, standards and award standards are online, yet I guess it’s just easier to come on here and ask.
Yes, I am an older generation that didn’t have access to the regulations at the tips of my fingers.
Do you think an infantryman awarded an CIB/EIB would be eligible to where the CAB if he transferred to non combat arms?
I know you’re thinking, “why would he?” But as a tactical intelligence op who proved his worth on the battlefield more than a few times, it’s this kind of crap that gets under my skin.
Maybe I’m reading the disrespect into the question and if so, my apologies.
In my line of work, I had opportunities to support special operations forces, joint forces to include fast mover coordination, asymmetrical warfare and basically all the special types who want to know where enemy radios are and what they are saying.
I can’t say I’ve never encountered it, but most of the special folks were highly appreciate of of the support people around them.
There were a few Rah-rah douche bags, but they were the exception rather than the rule.
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