Posted on Jul 25, 2018
If I completed SGTs course and CPLs course while in the Marine Corps, will I have to attend BLC and ALC in the Army as a Sgt to pick up?
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Have 6 years time in grade as a Sgt and 11 years TIG. Came into the Army in April 2018 as a Sgt/E-5
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Sgt Advanced Leaders Course (ALC formerly BNCOC) Phase 1 Common Core Promotion Board
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You should receive credit provided you have all of the documentation to validate. On the other hand it is a great opportunity to become acclimated with the Army. There will be NCOs from literally every unit on the base exposing you to the full spectrum of Army culture. If I were your 1SG or CSM I would encourage you to attend. Thank you for your service.
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CPL course is not BLC equivalent.
SGT's course is BLC equivalent.
Neither get you credit for ALC.
SGT's course is BLC equivalent.
Neither get you credit for ALC.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
Sgt Michael Reyes - Officially, a Marine Corporal does the Job of a Sergeant in the Army. Army Sergeants lead fire teams, Corporals lead them in the Marines. While a Marine Corporal may be assigned as Squad leader, the position in the Marines is an E-5 slot. The reason that you see so many Marines serving in positions above their pay scale is the Marine promotion system takes much longer to make rank. No limit on ranks through E-4 in the Army, so those ranks don't require slots and a soldier will normally make E-4 in two years if they get their schools. You can make Sergeant in less than three years since they can waiver TIS and TIG, but three years in service and at least eight months in grade are the normal requirements .
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Sgt Michael Reyes
CPT Lawrence Cable
Correction: In the Combat Arms fields: USMC Corporals (E-4) routinely hold billets in the USMC that Staff Sergeants (E-6) in the Army hold. USMC sergeants (E-5) routinely hold billets in the USMC that Sergeants First Class (E-7) holds in the Army.
I know this because I (and many, many others in the Corps) held these billets which require high levels of responsibility!
Correction: In the Combat Arms fields: USMC Corporals (E-4) routinely hold billets in the USMC that Staff Sergeants (E-6) in the Army hold. USMC sergeants (E-5) routinely hold billets in the USMC that Sergeants First Class (E-7) holds in the Army.
I know this because I (and many, many others in the Corps) held these billets which require high levels of responsibility!
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SGT (Join to see)
According to AR 600-8-19 Para 7-24 a(4) and a(5) 16MAY2019
USMC NCO Course and Basic NCO courses are equivelant. Corporal IS the first and "basic NCO" of the Marine Corps, carrying the same duties and level of responsibility as an Army Sergeant.
I just completed a packet for another prior service Marine who joined my unit and got him the credit for BLC.
USMC NCO Course and Basic NCO courses are equivelant. Corporal IS the first and "basic NCO" of the Marine Corps, carrying the same duties and level of responsibility as an Army Sergeant.
I just completed a packet for another prior service Marine who joined my unit and got him the credit for BLC.
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Yeah, I don’t believe that at all SGM. You’re the first person who’s said that. I have all my official documents from Cpls course and Sgts course, gave them to my recruiter and was told I’m exempt from ALC.
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I believe you should still attend and see if you may have missed any area from the Corps to the Army. Theymay show you a thing or two and you may impress them with some Marine things as well. You will only come out better than you came in. Not only that , it will impress your future commander and show them that you can handle any situation.
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That's assuming my unit was correct and there was no way to transfer CPL Course over to count as credit.
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Funny. My friend as both coming from the marines and they still made him go to blc. Said it didnt carry over... he got hard slotted to go to BLC.
Unfortunately he failed the course at week 2 ..
Unfortunately he failed the course at week 2 ..
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I would say make sure you have some sort of proof, I had a gentleman who claim to have the equivalent of PLDC but could not prove it, so we made him take the course.
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SSG (Join to see)
Sounds good, I think my soldier was trying to scam us, I sent off for his records and could not find anything in them, he tried to tell us they must have gotten lost. CO said no proof you go to the school.
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I knew a staff sergeant who came to the Army Reserve as a specialist e-4 but he had his basic non commissioned officer leadership course and he made E5 in a few months. The Army does not discriminate against your Marine schools, it's the Marines who discriminate against the army. I knew a platoon Sergeant, E7 who was a master gunner in armor in the California guard. He was working at China Lake as a civilian and was going to get transferred to the East Coast. He was offered an E-1 or E2 position in the Marine Corps Reserve do the exact same job on Abrams tanks. So be grateful the Army is not like the USMC.
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SGT Terrell Houston
Yes sir I do understand the non-acceptance of other credentials into the Marine Corps from outside its own service. I just wanted to know if I would be forced into doing the leadership courses essentially, again.
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