Posted on Nov 4, 2016
If I'm being separated for unsatisfactory performance (failing two PT tests), does being diagnosed with asthma cancel the separation process?
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So I failed two PT tests and in between the first and second I started going to an allergist who might be diagnosing me with asthma. My chapter packet is complete and ready to be turned in to the separation authority on Monday. If I get a letter about my asthma or other legitimate breathing problems will this cancel the chapter, and start a medical discharge? Because I read my chapter packet, and it says "without medical limitation failed two record APFT's" so if I have asthma, that means it was with medical limitations. I'm trying not to get the boot with a general discharge if at all possible if it turns out I really do have asthma.
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Responses: 16
No it will not stop your separation due to the fact even with asthma you either get a no run profile or no profile at all and without a profile you are still expected to pass your 2 mile run. And if you do receive a no run profile you will be separated for the asthma.
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Was your asthma documented in your military records any time PRIOR to these APFT failures? Is this exercise induced asthma or a constant issue where you're hitting a puffer at random moments? Did you get treated at your OSUT TMC for your breathing problems?
Honestly, at this stage of the game, you might want to start packing things.
Honestly, at this stage of the game, you might want to start packing things.
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I'm surprised you didn't notice you had trouble breathing during normal PT or when you were preparing for your PT test. Especially your second failure. Might have asthma? Sounds to me that more than likely you are just out of shape.
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PFC Aarion Ojeda
Well since I spent 3 months preparing for the second test by running twice a day everyday I doubt it. And the pulmonary test shows definite asthma.
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SFC Joseph Weber
So You might have or do have? I've know a number of guys who had asthma, hid it, and still passed. You asked if you could get it switched to a medical so you don't want to stay in. Whatever the doc says and whatever your command says sounds like you are out the door. Best to just go.
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Shaking my head here...Asthma creeps up on you, not boom! next day you have it. How were your previous scores? If you were near the fail line on the runs then Yes, you might have a breathing problem. IS there any thing else that might be a contributor? Different area with allergen in the air? How often do you PT (BETTER BE 3 TIMES A WEEK) any less than that and you might just need remedial PT. Good luck with delaying your discharge, if you do in fact have Asthma then you will most likely be at end of service life. Semper Fi.
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PFC Aarion Ojeda - have you always struggled to breathing while running, there is a thing called exercise induced asthma, when you were younger did you play sports and how did running affect you then, talk to your CoC, present your med records as evidence that you do have a medical condition, and hopefully it will turn in your favor but be prepared asthma is a career ender
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This is from the Army Trial Defense Service:
"5. TYPE OF DISCHARGE : Soldiers separated under this program will generally be given either an honorable discharge or a general under honorable conditions discharge (Para. 13-10, AR 635-200). a. HONORABLE: This is a separation with honor. An honorable discharge will be given for proper military behavior and proficient performance of duty. If the soldier has served faithfully and performed to the best of his ability, and there is no derogatory information in his military record, he should receive an honorable discharge. If there arc infractions of discipline, the seriousness and frequency will be evaluated. When there is a doubt, it should be resolved in favor of an honorable discharge. An honorable discharge is required if the government introduces limited use evidence (see Para. 3-8 (a) and (g), AR 635-200). b. GENERAL: This is a discharge under honorable conditions, soldier whose record and performance is satisfactory. This is usually given to someone who had non-judicial punishments (Article 15s), but not for serious infractions. When this type of discharge is given, the commander must state the specific basis for it. c. UNDER OTHER THAN HONORABLE CONDITIONS: This is a discharge issue ordinarily for misconduct, fraudulent entry, security reasons, or for the good of the service. This discharge carries considerable stigma and deprives the soldier of substantially all veteran’s benefits accrued during the enlistment period. This type of discharge is usually not given under Chapter 13. "
"5. TYPE OF DISCHARGE : Soldiers separated under this program will generally be given either an honorable discharge or a general under honorable conditions discharge (Para. 13-10, AR 635-200). a. HONORABLE: This is a separation with honor. An honorable discharge will be given for proper military behavior and proficient performance of duty. If the soldier has served faithfully and performed to the best of his ability, and there is no derogatory information in his military record, he should receive an honorable discharge. If there arc infractions of discipline, the seriousness and frequency will be evaluated. When there is a doubt, it should be resolved in favor of an honorable discharge. An honorable discharge is required if the government introduces limited use evidence (see Para. 3-8 (a) and (g), AR 635-200). b. GENERAL: This is a discharge under honorable conditions, soldier whose record and performance is satisfactory. This is usually given to someone who had non-judicial punishments (Article 15s), but not for serious infractions. When this type of discharge is given, the commander must state the specific basis for it. c. UNDER OTHER THAN HONORABLE CONDITIONS: This is a discharge issue ordinarily for misconduct, fraudulent entry, security reasons, or for the good of the service. This discharge carries considerable stigma and deprives the soldier of substantially all veteran’s benefits accrued during the enlistment period. This type of discharge is usually not given under Chapter 13. "
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