Posted on Jan 25, 2021
If Matthew 21:22 isn't true then what is the point of prayer? Wouldn't prayer be nothing more than a waste of precious time?
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Cpl Robert Russell Payne
Then why does the Bible say otherwise? If it isn't true then why should we acknowledge it?
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SGT Steve McFarland
Cpl Robert Russell Payne Because you have to take that verse in the whole context of what the Bible says about prayer. You are looking for an excuse to not believe the Bible, hoping that something finally sticks.
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Cpl Robert Russell Payne
SGT Steve McFarland Maybe I am but I didn't get to this point overnight. It is a deal breaker if it isn't true!
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Too many people try to understand the Bible by dissecting a verse or a paragraph.
Bad analogy alert
It's like trying to say you know and understand stew because you picked out a piece of celery and ate that.
Admittedly I have no idea for what you are praying. If you believe without doubt and pray for another man's wife..., should God grant the prayer? If your mother is dying a slow miserable death and praying for release, and you are praying for her recovery; whose prayer should God grant?
It sounds like a deflection, I'm sorry but if you aren't receiving what you pray for, there is a flaw within the nature of the prayer, or God will deliver, but what God delivers may not look like what you thought you were asking for, and God delivers on his schedule, not yours.
I think SGT Steve McFarland nailed it. Too often prayer is entered into as a negotiation. If God will ______, then you will _______. Think about it. Do you give your children what ever they ask for, whenever they ask for it? Do they always (or for that matter ever) understand why you may deny them something they desperately want?
Bad analogy alert
It's like trying to say you know and understand stew because you picked out a piece of celery and ate that.
Admittedly I have no idea for what you are praying. If you believe without doubt and pray for another man's wife..., should God grant the prayer? If your mother is dying a slow miserable death and praying for release, and you are praying for her recovery; whose prayer should God grant?
It sounds like a deflection, I'm sorry but if you aren't receiving what you pray for, there is a flaw within the nature of the prayer, or God will deliver, but what God delivers may not look like what you thought you were asking for, and God delivers on his schedule, not yours.
I think SGT Steve McFarland nailed it. Too often prayer is entered into as a negotiation. If God will ______, then you will _______. Think about it. Do you give your children what ever they ask for, whenever they ask for it? Do they always (or for that matter ever) understand why you may deny them something they desperately want?
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SGT Steve McFarland
Our timing isn't always God's timing. How many years had Zacharias and Elizabeth prayed for a child, seemingly with no answer from God, when God, out of the blue, finally answered in their old age, and gave them John the Baptist?
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Cpl Robert Russell Payne
Maj John Bell At the time I wasnt testing. I was faiyhfu8 waiting. After that happens so many times they became tests after the fact!
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Cpl Robert Russell Payne
Maj John Bell Matthew 7 7-11 is just the same as the rest. I've asked and I've knocked. It what it is!
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Maj John Bell
Cpl Robert Russell Payne - The answer to your question is too long for this format. I suggest the following:
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=3483
https://tektonics.org/lp/prayfor.php
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=13&article=3483
https://tektonics.org/lp/prayfor.php
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You aren't taking the full context of Matthew 21 into consideration or the larger lesson which is the power of not only prayer but belief. This is much more than the 1 dimensional interpretation you gave. You aren't rubbing a lamp and making a wish. This is about faith, conviction and belief equipping followers/believers. If you don't like the Bible in general, religion as a whole or maybe you have a gripe about Christianity that is fine. That is your right to have that opinion. I will counter that if you are going to criticize the scripture don't cherry pick a single strand and use that one piece as the base of your argument. Prayer is much more than ordering what you want. It's a conversation based on belief.
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