Posted on Oct 13, 2023
If the A-10 Warthogs are so useless to the USAF inventory, why are they being sent to Israel as an immediate action airplane?
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Phoenix just had one in a flyover at Diamondbacks game. They start at the top of my street, so cool to witness
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TSgt Louis Nieves
yes but cooler if you see them firing their 20 mm canon at a target range in georgia when our air guard unit took our kc 135 there. vety impresive.
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I agree with Col. Cudworth.
The A-10 was almost like a fire and forget weapon but for the Air Force, it was an aircraft of the "Cold War" the armor was mostly to protect the piolet and the engines from small arms fire. Its main job was to bust up tanks coming through the Fulda Gap. Soviet doctrine for Motorized Rifle Recements was to barrel down the road in columns, the A-10 was to take advantage of this by coming over low and slow and destroy as many as the can until empty get back reload ad fuel and go back for some more until they can't. The greatest threat to all aircraft at the time was the ZSU 23-4 (Shilka) and the hope was to catch them in column along with 9K33 Osa (Gecko), Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launcher System, which at least two Geckos would be working in the same area around a ZSU 23-4 working as a unit. This is the reasoning for the A-10 to bust tanks. As an Infantryman during the time if we were to see a ZSU 23-4, it was a mission changer for us, for now it was our main job to destroy it at all costs. Seeing a 9K33 alerted us to the fact a 23-4 was in the area, your job now find it!
The bean counters want to have aircrafts that can fit dual rolls and the A-10 does one thing and one thing only really, really well Close Air Support period! Drop the A-10 by more dual roll F16s that the Air Force swears will have some set aside for CAS missions. Yeah, I bet.
The Air Force has tried to force retire the aircraft by starving its logistics system of replacement parts and higher deployment rate for a rapid decline of the aircraft's system faster. However, the Air Force was caught with their hand in the cookie jar in 2022 for trying this, and now have their "Prunes along with their short and curli's caught in a beartrap!" The A-10is is now going to receiving new wing from Boeing, and will be getting new electronics, sensors and weapons systems to push them into the 2030's. I guess someone told them make it happen or find work elsewhere.
The A-10 was almost like a fire and forget weapon but for the Air Force, it was an aircraft of the "Cold War" the armor was mostly to protect the piolet and the engines from small arms fire. Its main job was to bust up tanks coming through the Fulda Gap. Soviet doctrine for Motorized Rifle Recements was to barrel down the road in columns, the A-10 was to take advantage of this by coming over low and slow and destroy as many as the can until empty get back reload ad fuel and go back for some more until they can't. The greatest threat to all aircraft at the time was the ZSU 23-4 (Shilka) and the hope was to catch them in column along with 9K33 Osa (Gecko), Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launcher System, which at least two Geckos would be working in the same area around a ZSU 23-4 working as a unit. This is the reasoning for the A-10 to bust tanks. As an Infantryman during the time if we were to see a ZSU 23-4, it was a mission changer for us, for now it was our main job to destroy it at all costs. Seeing a 9K33 alerted us to the fact a 23-4 was in the area, your job now find it!
The bean counters want to have aircrafts that can fit dual rolls and the A-10 does one thing and one thing only really, really well Close Air Support period! Drop the A-10 by more dual roll F16s that the Air Force swears will have some set aside for CAS missions. Yeah, I bet.
The Air Force has tried to force retire the aircraft by starving its logistics system of replacement parts and higher deployment rate for a rapid decline of the aircraft's system faster. However, the Air Force was caught with their hand in the cookie jar in 2022 for trying this, and now have their "Prunes along with their short and curli's caught in a beartrap!" The A-10is is now going to receiving new wing from Boeing, and will be getting new electronics, sensors and weapons systems to push them into the 2030's. I guess someone told them make it happen or find work elsewhere.
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The only person I've heard say that they're useless was that brain dead boob "Maverick", John McCain. He tried to get them cancelled, for some reason. The A-10 is an incredible weapon system and is incredibly usefull.
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The Air Force doesn't want to do close air support but the don't want anyone else to do it either.
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The a10s CAS isn't helpful to the AF, but as a soldier that has had the luck of being supported by by them on several occasions. They are not just effective they are intimidating as hell. Haji hates helicopters but they truly fear the A10. On one occasion as soon as the A10s showed up haji broke contact. The A10 didn't fire a single round never even came in low. They literally had just Gotten in the area circled overhead two maybe three times.
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Useless lol personal experience in Desert Shield/Storm calling air strikes on enemy vehicles and equipment I’d always prefer the A10 to cut me a path. Yes they are slow compared to other jets, but that beast puts fear in men’s hearts. Hell it put fear into my heart just hoping they didn’t start strafing to soon. Hell the sound of that 30 mm gun had many Iraqis turning and trying to run away
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The A-10 is arguably the best close air support platform ever designed. However, its time is coming to an end like all other great warbirds. The A-10 is great for an austere low threat environment like we saw in Afghanistan and Iraq for the past 20 years. They would be great in Africa and South America as well. Against modern air defense systems that a near peer adversary would have, it would have a low survivability rate. The decision of sending to the Middle East again was based on availability not necessarily airframe. A F-16 unit could have easily gotten the call if they were in the bucket.
It is also seen as a single mission aircraft in a time when the Air Force can no longer afford to have single mission aircraft. Can the F-35 do the close air support role? Yes, it can but it doesn't do it as well as the A-10. Can the A-10 do the air-to-air role and other missions of the F-35? Unfortunately, the answer is no. While the troops on the ground love the capabilities the A-10 provides the truth is in Iraq and Afghanistan several other platforms provided close air support effectively enough to show that the A-10 could be replaced. I supported A-10s for 17 years on 5 deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq and love the plane and its missions. Unfortunately, much like the F-4, P-51 and other greats its time has come to an end.
It is also seen as a single mission aircraft in a time when the Air Force can no longer afford to have single mission aircraft. Can the F-35 do the close air support role? Yes, it can but it doesn't do it as well as the A-10. Can the A-10 do the air-to-air role and other missions of the F-35? Unfortunately, the answer is no. While the troops on the ground love the capabilities the A-10 provides the truth is in Iraq and Afghanistan several other platforms provided close air support effectively enough to show that the A-10 could be replaced. I supported A-10s for 17 years on 5 deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq and love the plane and its missions. Unfortunately, much like the F-4, P-51 and other greats its time has come to an end.
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