Posted on Aug 24, 2015
If the commander asked for feedback would you give it to him/her?
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Recently my commander released Staff Sergeant promotion results in a different manner than we normally do. Many airman near me were talking about how they disliked this new way. I myself had the same sentiments and for good cause. During the release, the commander asked us to let him know if we liked doing promotions this way. I took two days to type up a simple, yet respectful email explaining my opinion and giving three alternate solutions to achieve what he stated his goals were for his approach. The next week I was talking to another airman about this and he was adamant that I shouldn't have done that. When I asked why he response was "you just don't do that". My email was in no way disrespectful or full of complaining. I received a reply from my commander that stated "Understood. Thank you for your honest feedback." Would you have told the commander your opinion or would you have kept silent? Was I wrong to be honest?
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You wasn't wrong at all your Commander wanted feedback and you did as he/she requested, honesty in an respectful manner means a lot.
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I think in a way, you do give them feedback. Unit climate assessments are everyone's opportunity to give feedback on the unit and by extension the CC. Also, SNCOs and subordinate officers give constant feedback when they give recommendations, solicited or otherwise. I think most people think of feedback as a direct "you did this wrong" or "you're doing that right". That type of feedback is feedback, but not the kind of feedback subordinates are generally permitted to give, for good reason. Most younger troops don't know how to give it constructively and you are lucky that you have a CC that would allow that, and that you did it respectfully.
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Well your brace because I don't think I ever gave my Skipper or LT honest answers till I was an PO2. But that was because by that time I was mature enough to give honest feed back with reason not complaining. The fact you gave alternative ways was probably really appreciative. I have a Chief tell me if you have a problem with something I'm doing come to me with a solution not just a complaint. So I commend you on coming up with alternatives and having the courage to give honest feedback.
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"Moral courage" means telling your commander what he wants to hear these days. I was condemned by my peers and superiors for speaking up, and telling it like it was. I was called a relic from the past that should be put in a glass case. I was focused on training for war not peace. Discipline was my watchword, and the soldiers did not decide what punishment was right or wrong where I served as CSM. I was the Chief Trainer. The buck stopped with me. I participated in all training and lead by example. I was told by a Division CSM that I would never serve above BN level because I was too intrusive. That means I scared commanders with the truth. The next thing he asked was why do you train with your soldiers? The question was shocking, but the answer was simple. When I speak everyone listens. That went over his head like a tent. I carried a rifle not a pistol, and I damn well knew how to use that weapon and my soldiers knew how to use their weapons as well. -CSM Purdy
People don't want to rock the boat now a days. I am much like CSM David Heidke. I will give it without it being asked for. I know I would rather hear the truth than what I wanted to hear. Now a days so many are career minded they don't want to oppose anyone above them for the fear that they may be viewed as hostile. I say that is BS. I have said my piece many times and I have had to pay for it sometimes. I will not sacrifice my "Moral Courage" for an OER bullet.
You did the right thing. He asked for it and you gave it to him. I will say it, that Airman that questioned you is a coward. He is nothing more than a ticket puncher waiting for his turn.
You should read this link.
People don't want to rock the boat now a days. I am much like CSM David Heidke. I will give it without it being asked for. I know I would rather hear the truth than what I wanted to hear. Now a days so many are career minded they don't want to oppose anyone above them for the fear that they may be viewed as hostile. I say that is BS. I have said my piece many times and I have had to pay for it sometimes. I will not sacrifice my "Moral Courage" for an OER bullet.
You did the right thing. He asked for it and you gave it to him. I will say it, that Airman that questioned you is a coward. He is nothing more than a ticket puncher waiting for his turn.
You should read this link.
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TSgt Melissa Post - Keep in mind the light houses are few and far between on the coast. But they are in key places to save the ships and lives on board that ship. There may not be many strong leaders out there but the ones we have need to be in the key places to guide the momentum of our Army for the better. If a dim leader is there the ship will never see the light and crash much like a failing unit. Keep you head up. I was once that PFC that thought the same thing.
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I'm sorry, I've been stewing over this topic for a little bit.. My opinion is all lives matter. Unfortunately the media is playing to one side. Plus our leaders aren't doing anything to squash it. It is a real shame that in this century that we are igniting an issue that was/should have been only read about in history books. I'm tired of people pointing fingers and placing blame on there own F'd up lives and situations. I wrote a check to this government up to and including my life to enable people to speak their minds. It makes me real sad that this is what it is coming to....
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Well not sure which thread this was meant for and no worries lol. But I will say this, it was well spoken and couldn't have said it better.
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The answer to your question is yes. It is ok to provide feedback to your commander and peers alike because that is how we grow and develop as leaders and soldiers. You actually took the necessary and most crutial step to provide the commander with a few different ways. I think what the other airman was trying to get you to see if I can dare to guess is that it would have served you better to try the new way first for a few times then provide your feedback this would've allowed you to see if the new way was wrong or if you were just not comfortable with the change.
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This is a joke question right? There is no good outcome that can come from honestly answering a question like that.
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Just as long as it is always following 'Well with all due respect, Sir/ Ma'am' followed but most likely something about lab monkeys.
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