If the distance for the PT test run was 2.13 miles, am I still allowed to dispute it and request a retest?

The testing distance in excess of two miles was approximately 1/8 of a mile. Is there a standard for the course distance? This overage represents approximately 6.5% of the required distance. If a 6-inch bullseye was 6.5% smaller than standard, it would be 5.22 inches in diameter. Therefore, one would need to be shooting at the target from approximately 174m to achieve the same effect as shooting at a 6 inch bullseye from 200m.

If a soldier found that the supposed 6 inch bullseye was only a 5.22 inch bullseye, he'd certainly have a legitimate beef.

The main issue is the Army's distance tolerance for the 2 mile course.

In todays Army I have no idea how this is handled. But I am however shocked to think that you are allowed 16+ minutes to run the 2 miles. Back in the day you'd run it again , most likely the next day. I assume you get to run in PT clothes. Back in the day we ran I Boots and Fatigues. At Ft. Bragg we ran in the mud, at Ft Gordon and Ft. Leonard Wood in the sand. In Viet Nam the test was to live or die. Again the time allowed just floors me. Now the standard is the standard and if your were tested outside the standard I would follow what ever procedure is required to fix this. No wonder I see so many Fat Service members these days.

Technically, yes. Two miles is supposed to be two miles. It would be the same effect if the distance was say, 1.79 miles, and everyone had all-star run times.

At the same time, if you're that much on the fringe of passing and failing, yes, there are other issues you need to work on. But short answer, yes, you do have a legit gripe.

If you passed...perhaps not but the standard is 2 miles. So if you ran more and they time you for 2 miles but your time is more because you ran 2.13...then I think that should be adjusted or something...

I think your unit should re-measure the course. If found to be invalid then those p.t. tests are invalid. But here's the truth also. If you failed a run based off .13 miles you need to seriously look at yourself and re-evaluate your effort towards fitness. Some of us hate running we aren't good at it, so unit p.t. is not enough. You may just have to put a little effort in on your own time. I know God forbid we have to do this but sometimes that's what it takes.

I know we are wussies when it comes to PT, but in the Air Force if you failed a run, you did not have to ask if you could retest. We always retested those individuals.

I understand USAF and Army are 2 different animals. This same issue was brought up to USAF which found most (if memory serves greater then 50%)USAF courses exceeded the required testing difference by order of head of USAF all personal being chaptered, seperated, etc for PT failures were to be re-measured by the senior NCO and officer with uninterested third party witness.

Just wondering; who was your Platoon Sergeant in Charlie company 832nd ORD?

Don't quote me on this, but I believe they are allowed a +/- 10% variance on the plotted course. So if you're supposed to run 2 miles, as long as the course doesn't go over 2.2 miles, it's still legitimate for scoring.

I recommend look up the order itself. But I heard this from from the guys who typically set up the courses. Of course Marines and Army are 2 different branches, but it never hurts to look it up yourself.