Posted on May 3, 2017
If the distance for the PT test run was 2.13 miles, am I still allowed to dispute it and request a retest?
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CPO (Join to see)
What an idiot! Just do the math! The command is penalizing every Soldier running the extended 2.13 mile course. That extra 229 yards adds to run times, which lowers APFT scores, resulting in fewer promotion points, more promotions denied, and more promotions delayed.
The extended course is costing Soldiers money, costing Soldiers promotions, and costing Soldiers careers. But somehow you feel warranted in a name calling attack (that likely violates Army regulations on the use of social media) against the PFC who only seeks to follow regulations and enforce established standards. Meanwhile you ignore the leadership failures that are negatively impacting every Soldiers forced to run that course.
If an extra 229 yards is not enough to complain about, then how much does the command have to violate regulations and established standards before it is okay with you for a Soldier to speak up and seek guidance?
The extended course is costing Soldiers money, costing Soldiers promotions, and costing Soldiers careers. But somehow you feel warranted in a name calling attack (that likely violates Army regulations on the use of social media) against the PFC who only seeks to follow regulations and enforce established standards. Meanwhile you ignore the leadership failures that are negatively impacting every Soldiers forced to run that course.
If an extra 229 yards is not enough to complain about, then how much does the command have to violate regulations and established standards before it is okay with you for a Soldier to speak up and seek guidance?
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How do you know it wasn't exactly 2 miles, if you failed because of .13 miles you need to be doing extra training anyway.
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If the course truly is not up to standard, change it. As far as a retest? I'm sure they'll retest you anyway for failing. I'd push for an evaluation of the running course and work on your endurance. Don't run 2 miles run 3 or 4 and throw in some sprints.
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Sir,
How do all the other Soldiers recoup the lost promotion points that were wrongfully denied by the command by making them run an extra 229 yards on an invalid APFT course? IMHO, the Soldier's fitness level is tertiary at best. The leadership failures and all the consequences are real the elephant in the room. The command is screwing their Soldiers: costing them money, costing them promotions, and costing some their careers.
How do all the other Soldiers recoup the lost promotion points that were wrongfully denied by the command by making them run an extra 229 yards on an invalid APFT course? IMHO, the Soldier's fitness level is tertiary at best. The leadership failures and all the consequences are real the elephant in the room. The command is screwing their Soldiers: costing them money, costing them promotions, and costing some their careers.
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This might piss some people off but life isn't always fair. I really hate mistakes but mistakes occur. I'm actually glad to see a young Soldier question the standard. It means he is thinking and looking out for other Soldiers. If the course is incorrect it does need to be corrected. If it is too long and isn't corrected, it is a failure in leadership. If the NCO support chain is failing that Soldier, the entire command is jacked. There are still avenues to correct these deficiencies.
To answer your question about recouping, it sucks, but most likely a retest. I've done this twice. As Soldiers we need to be ready pass the APFT at any time. Missed opportunities due to this failure suck but it won't fix the issue. Addressing the issue and actively seeking a solution will fix it.
I think I was on point with my original response. Change/fix the course, retest, and work on increasing the runtime for the Soldier's benefit; fitness level is always a concern. As for the command climate, I would hope a leader would stand up and address the issue. My PITA mouth would.
To answer your question about recouping, it sucks, but most likely a retest. I've done this twice. As Soldiers we need to be ready pass the APFT at any time. Missed opportunities due to this failure suck but it won't fix the issue. Addressing the issue and actively seeking a solution will fix it.
I think I was on point with my original response. Change/fix the course, retest, and work on increasing the runtime for the Soldier's benefit; fitness level is always a concern. As for the command climate, I would hope a leader would stand up and address the issue. My PITA mouth would.
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Suck it up buttercup ....... its just a total of 2 blocks ..... its all in your head how long .13 of a mile is
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Your paycheck is short 75 bucks and 2 days leave. Do you suck it up. It's only a couple bucks and a few hours in the grand scheme so just forget about it.
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That's about 230 yards which isn't short but also is not long. But if you are cutting it that close to passing then the issue isn't the distance. In the eight years I served I did not fail one run and I was considered over weight. Maximum effective range of an excuse (such as distance?) Is and always will be zero
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This is what I say you new the military standards when you went in if you can't keep up with the standards just keep failing them and they will separate you because they don't need you wtf is it like thinks carl you fucked it up for everyone you can't run 2 miles we can fight for our country now think you carl I swear just do what is excepted of you and move on or get the fuck out POS
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Uhm, you know he is asking how he can get his command to follow regulations and go by established standards.... Why is he a POS for wanting his command to obey regulations and established standards in their administration of the APFT?
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I suggest you ensure that you are correct in your assessment and measure it by running it 4-6 times per week for the next several weeks. Then, retake your PT test.
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