If the distance for the PT test run was 2.13 miles, am I still allowed to dispute it and request a retest?

Most of these responses are in Jest. We had this happen on a Record APFT once, the length was slightly longer and the stretch on one end of the field had an elevation just slightly over 3%. As officers we ran our butts off and made it in time, but a few stragglers got short changed. The MFT adjusted the time for all equally and suddenly all passed, with a few distinctions. Length and Grade of the course does indeed affect time, but it can be corrected at the Unit Trainer or MFT level, so why escalate?

I am going to respond in this way. When I was in the NAVY I scored an Outstanding on every PT test. I also was invited to try out for the All Navy Softball team. We were underway and myself and 3 other shipmates could not make the tryouts. Even though I always scored an Outstanding and was athletically inclined I was also a part of the FAT BOY CLUB. My body fat was always just making the standard. I asked and received a chance to be measured when dropped into a water tank. There was a 7% difference to the better than being measured. Since the Navy at the time only recognized the tape measure way to determine body fat. I this fair NO but did I sit there and complain that I am kicking everyone ass in the PT but have to do extra work every day NO. I this soldier all that I can say is quit complaining because if you did not make the time then you have to work harder. The better that you are physically the better off that you will be when you encounter a real hardship.

Go to the Engineer BN an get a surveyor's wheel, also called a clickwheel, hodometer, waywiser, trundle wheel, measuring wheel or perambulator is a device for measuring distance. Next measure the course with one of your NCO's. Show your result's to the 1SG, if your right I an sure they will correct it by having you retake you APFT over using new course, and if you are not right well you just failed and got on someone's shit list.

Yes dispute it, the problem with units who create their own standards is that no one knows what right looks like anymore. I can remember going from one unit to another or one base to another and not having to worry about not being within the standard. TRADOC for example, seems to have its own standard in certain situations that differentiate from the rest of the Army. Things like 2.13 mile runs for a pt test when the standard is 2.0 miles is small but a slippery slope. The 4 mile by 9 minute pace is also problematic because there are females who are allowed longer than 9 minutes per mile to pass their pt test. An example is that I am 37 years old and allowed 18:18 to run my 2 mile time. So if I met the standard for my 2 mile and averaged a 9:09 minute pace over 4 miles, I would fail the 4 miles by 36:00 with a time of 36:36. Though I am within the standard as big Army sees it, I have just failed a policy that I’ve yet to find outlined in FM 7-22. Perhaps I need to re-visit the FM for updates but I’m confident in my knowledge base. The old bullshit of “you can add to the standard but not take away” doesn’t fly anymore either because it is unenforceable via UCMJ. Something I’ve had to point out personally in the past. In the end, pt is an individual effort and the Army has pretty clear cut instructions on how a pt test is to be conducted and if the test is conducted as laid out, then the soldier either passes or fails. If the test isn’t laid out as specified then it is on the integrity of the leadership to ensure that every soldier is given the opportunity to re-take the test under the correct conditions. That’s the professionalism demanded of leaders regardless of personal opinions.

Run faster. You should be striving to max your or test all the time

I’ve seen a couple hundred Junior enlisted dispute the APFT, and every single one was told: “get the fuck away from me with your Air Force wannabe bullshit” and that’s the end of that..

If you failed it by less than the time it took you to run that .13 miles you might have an argument for taking it over. If you failed it by MORE than that time, you still failed.

If you don't pass you're going to have to retake it anyway. I had to retake the PT test to graduate. I had a hard time on the bars. Why are these guys wearing shorts and t-shirts? We wore boots and fatigues for all PT.

you either pass or you don't if not putting in the time then no one needs you quit crying train train or get out

If you just train just make the minimum in anything, failure is waiting for you