If the pentagon didn’t mandate that all service members receive the COVID vaccine, would you have gotten it?

SPC Dawn Appelberg (Johnson) - You don't remember the SARS scare from 2002 - 2004?

Also, while flu was much rarer (because so many people were masking, maintaining distances, etc), it still occurred https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

SGT Lori Adams - Since some have chosen to politicize this, no one seems to read beyond their preconceived notions. That is a shame.

SGT Lori Adams - I don't remember "men" having a meeting and all agreeing to take Viagra. Must have missed that one... but broad brushes aside, nobody has ever been required by law to take Viagra, so I guess that was just an irrelevant misandrist flame.
Presonally, I have taken the vaccine, both steps. At this point, there is no real justification for forcing people to take booster after booster, and the fact that the vaccine is only effected for a few months affects the risk:reward ratio a fair bit. I am adamantly opposed to forcing people to take a medication that is no universally accepted and has not had time to go through the full screening process. The only reason there isn't more open opposition is because people who publicly even question the vaccines or suggest there are viable alternatives are shut down hard.

SPC Stiv ChenRobbins But it did go thru the full screening process. It has to. And the military routinely forces it members to take shit that probably isn’t universally accepted - thinking Anthrax.

The viagra comment as you must have missed was about how it was also quickly developed but we don’t seem to here any bitching about that. No one seems to care about the long term health effects of viagra. Seems a bit of a double standard.

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/facts/testing

Capt Gregory Prickett - There is a certain irony that most of your posts are insulting, at best, yet you are throwing "downvoted and blocked" down for anything other than lockstep approval of all you say.
At least now you won't be forced to see both sides of the issues, and can honestly say that everyone whose posts you see agrees with you.

SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - There are all sorts of people who I disagree with but who I don't block or downvote.

Capt Gregory Prickett - But you do seem to insult them all.
Your choice. I don't know you. I just kinda see a trend, and it doesn't seem real productive. People who are attacked tend to defend themselves.

SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - I insult the idiots who have stooped to that level first. If you want to have a discussion on the issues, that is preferable. I'm not really interested in a discussion on how I deal with the less-well equipped RPers.

But you cannot get the APPROVED vaccine anywhere in the US. The one they are pushing is DIFFERENT from the APPROVED one.

SSgt Tracy Kawasaki - I salute you Sir! You show your humanity and give a damn about your fellow man. I did the same as you and not only because I am immune compromised and work with the homeless population, but because I actually saw no downside to it. As I said, I get the flu vaccine every year and have gotten vaccinated beginning at 5 years of age and never got sick as a kid. I wish with all the other shots I took that there would have been one for Agent Orange. Even though I have had a liver and kidney transplant resulting from exposure 15 years ago, I took the first vaccine in March of 2021 and followed with a Booster and a flu shot. Today I still am able to get in my cardio, do 100 pushups a day, lift a little iron 3 days a week and for all intents and purposes, feel great. Maybe I'm an outlier, I don't know, but I just don't get all the anger and vitriol. And like the man said, no one comes into my office without a mask and no one that is not vaccinated is welcome in my home. And that includes family. And no, it is not virtue signaling, whatever that is in political speak, I simply care about me, my wife and my fellow man. Some call that being sheeple. So Be It.

Hahaha...the FDA is a government entity! Of course they are going to approve a vaccine. Mission Ready?? The military has transsexuals in it ...how's that being mission ready! Thanks for the laugh.

Hypothetically speaking: if I were back in service, I would have if it was coming from the top down. Granted now that most of us are out, we can make our own decisions, but while in service we were bound by our oath to abide by the orders of the officers appointed over us. The Military is not a democracy, we don’t get to pick and choose what to do or what not to do. We signed our names on the dotted line. Embrace the suck and get it done for battle ready status.

How does the vaccine protect those around you? Do you know how the vaccine works? In actuality, it only affords YOU a lesser disease course. It also allows you to enjoy asymptomatic spread and contributes to mutations (diseases mutate to naturally get around threats to their existence when that threat doesn’t eradicate them… which these vaccines do not). Sincerely, a practicing physician.

CDR (Join to see) - and what is your reason for opposing the current vaccine?

Capt Gregory Prickett - incorrect - we actually care deeply about others which is why we are demanding this be a personal choice. If the vaccine worked - which is is proving more and more to not only NOT work, but to be the actual reason people are now contracting variants - then you should not have to worry if my family does not get it. Out of the 12 I have buried recently - all were vaccinated and all died of blood clots, heart attacks, aneurisms, and breathing issues shortly after the second injection. my daughter's best friend at 16 has been to the ER now twice with heart issues after the shot. It should be as personal a choice as smoking or drinking.

So sorry for you losses 1SG Mark Gomez. I completely agree with you wholeheartedly. It seems like ever since Trump was elected President, 1/2 the country deals with things by throwing a temper tantrum. I have never seen anything like what I am seeing in our society.

TSgt John Brody - Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. If you can provide a link to any REAL evidence, like peer reviewed science journals or clinical reports from actual medical research, I will be happy to check it out. Until then, I don't waste my time on bullshit YouTube videos.

For clarity, I am not saying that there are no side effects, only that legitimate side effects are rare. Hint: someone who gets the vaccine and then is run over by a bus did NOT die from the vaccine.

Check out Bret Weinsteins podcast and videos. He interviews several 'experts' that you seem to require.
As to peer reviewed articles...I guess I could do some more digging. But really, is it needed? There is a ton of evidence that:
the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting the disease.
It doesn't prevent you from spreading the disease.
It can make you ill or kill you.
Vitamin D is a great preventative.
Ivermectin within the first 48 hours reduces symptoms.
Hydroxy if you still have bad symptoms after a few days.
Wash your hands and keep your dirty fingers away from your face.
Eat healthy...avoid sugar and alcohol.
Comorbidities are KILLERS if you get the kung flu!
etc etc etc.

What is the current VAERS numbers for long term ill effects of the jab (including death)?

MSgt Vance, I am curious where you read that troops were getting dishonorable discharges.
I also wonder the source about loosing parental rights and being jailed because of not being vaccinated.
Without seeing the articles and the sources I would have to call a big BS.

And I’m glad your gut is steering you correctly SSG. My heart breaks for the good people who just trust too much and do what they’re told, or forced into, believing “it’s all good”. But people need to first understand this IS NOT a vaccine and was never intended to be such. Vaccines are derived from the virus itself and attenuated, killed or live doses given to boost your own immune system when needed to fight that specific virus. These clotshot frankenjabs do nothing of the kind, will never attain herd immunity or protection from or spread of infection, and are experimental gene manipulation. If people did actual research to understand what this poison does to your cells and that it replicates and slowly embeds and damages your vital organs with micro clotting PERMANENTLY, among other things, and you can’t undo it, you would be PISSED at this deliberate PSYOP and lie forced on us. And we already have safe treatments for this known virus with 99.99% recovery rate. But its cheap and doesn’t bring in the $$$$$ for the elites. Anyone who thinks they can blindly trust the “medical community” does not understand it is mostly a “healthcare industry” and should learn the difference. Hospitals, big pharma, corrupt government do not give a damn about any of us. And they are making bank on all of this crap, at our expense. Two top FDA officials themselves just chose to step down rather than be any part of this horrific unethical overstepping of this administration coercing them into a wrongful premature “approval” of this dangerous shot. It’s disgusting and abhorrent what they are doing to our military and country and human race period.
And I say this all as a military, medical, LE and government professional who cares.
And BTW, the PCR testing is garbage too. Never intended as they’re using and cannot differentiate between cold and flu viruses, which is why they can so easily deceptively manipulate cv data and FEAR in their favor and people just keep doing it.

PO1 Devils Angeldoc yup. The rapids test isn't that accurate. We had guys test positive on it, did the PCR and tested negative, frequently. My big thing is I work for the government, both at the local level (sheriff's office) and federal (Army). I love my country, but I know how corrupt our government is. Not saying this isn't a real virus. It definitely is, but the shot in itself won't stop it. (Here comes the vaccine fan boys who'll yell "but it slows the spread"). There are treatments that help those with the virus that either don't get proper funding or exposure in the media because you know, agendas. Big Pharma and our Federal government isn't all of a sudden going to act with OUR best interest in mind. Why would they? They operate with impunity and nobody checks them. I would never trust the Biden/Harris administration, nor those they appointed. This winter is going to be cover for action for all the dumb shit they try and pass.

Also, for anyone who thinks troops that don't want the shot are somehow shitty soldiers, go fuck yourself. You can't judge someone's service to this nation based off of not wanting a shot that could still allow you to get the big bad virus that is so bad you should be so fearful and blindly trust the government, yet not bad enough to say oh yeah I got a shot so I could "return to normal" like shit was so great before covid hit.

SPC Eduard Romanov - We all gotta die some time of some thing

SPC Eduard Romanov in the end, when we're all dead....will it really matter who was right and who was not?

SPC Eduard Romanov - Give what up?

SPC Eduard Romanov - And what brought such hostility my way? Because my opinion is different than yours? In what way did I provoke you to react to me in such a fashion?

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter before our political doctors mandate anything, they need to clean their own house

SSG (Join to see) - They have needed a house cleaning for a long time, I don't see any signs of them making any attempt to do that though. The are quick however to tell everyone else what to do, how to act and what to say as long as it agrees with their own agenda which learn heavily into Marist Socialism and is getting worse.

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Correct. How many have died fighting marxism ? All wiped out by a corrupt single party goverment

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - That's for sure.