Posted on May 4, 2014
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
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Sgt Flight Equipment Technician
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Right now I am non deplorable as a recruiter and to say that we shouldn't get promoted is assinign. The troops that are non deployable hace a purpose here state side weather it be for a special duty or regular duty. For most it is not our choice to be non deployable.
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CW3 Brett Jensen
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So SFC Thomas, if i get blown up, fighting for my country and become non deployable, then I should be thrown out because I'm no longer worthy. Somehow, becoming non deployable make me less of a soldier. I hope and pray you never end up like me and a bunch of my brothers and sisters in arms have, injured either training to fight or actually fighting. Because, I'm sure you would be crying another tune. I personally led soldiers in combat, only to return and face a Med Board for an injury that prevented me from completing a standard PT test. The injury did not prevent me from doing my job or leading soldiers. When I was asked why I should be retained, I said I led soldiers in Combat, am I less of a leader now than before. Mine was shortest Med Board in the history of the installation, 1 question, 1 answer. But according to you, I should have been throw out, along with all that good leadership experience. BTW, I retired several years later after leading and mentoring the next generation of war fighters.
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SSG Thomas Gallegos
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DISAGREE 100%! I was medically retired in 2012 after nearly 16 years of service. During this time as I was going through a Med-Board (IDES) I was a Plt. Sgt., Training Room NCOIC, Supply Room NCOIC mind you all at the same time.
We were in the process of changing missions from our normal MOS to another in able to support the overall mission.
I was going to Bn. Briefings, serving as Rear-Detachment NCO, taking all the normal phone calls, emails that the 1SG take to include the 3 a.m. phone calls about "Johnny Joe" needing picked up from the station and/or going to get a Soldier that was in a spat with is wife.
As I am writing this I read the response below by SSG Brian Jones that stated he "would take a non-deployable professional NCO over an unprofessional, toxic leader." I want to say I am not tooting my own horn but some will see that I am and that's okay.
While being afforded the opportunity to attend all medical appointments during this harsh time in my life I continued to serve professionally and assume all duties that were given to me. This was the only way I knew and the only way that I served because I was a team and mission guy. So in the end I whole-heartedly disagree. In my opinion once your records dictate that you are in a med-board process you would not be promoted anyways. You are not able to PCS etc.
Personally I took a lot of flack, but to this day I still get phone calls and emails from former Soldiers still asking advice and wanting to barrow on my experience and leadership. In your question I think you need to step back and look at the question asked. If you are barrowing off experience than so be it.
This is why I like the site though, you can ask questions and get truthful, honest answers.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
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While deployability is important that doesn't mean the person isn't good at what they do and doesn't have something to offer. Someone who works hard and gets results should be rewarded for them regardless of where they can and can't go.
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SGT Machine Operator
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If the man can do a job for the Army, then that's all I care about. Where he does it doesn't really matter to me.
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I disagree completely. According to your post anyone who is non deployable should not be allowed to promote... Where I am stationed my unit is non deployable simply because our home mission is just as important if not more important than being out in the field and we have a separate unit with the same job that is designated for deployments. So if what you said was in effect we would not promote simply due to our mission at home. Also sometimes those people you see who can't do something have temporary medical profiles that restrict them from doing certain things. What if that woman is pregnant and you just can't tell yet so they instruct her not to wear a vest. Also why are you going to punish someone who has a TEMPORARY set back. Sometimes you have to look at a situation past what your eyes show you and as a whole, ask her why she can't wear a vest and take into account what her situation is rather than spewing hate about it.
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Red Arc Her
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If you can't do the Job, you need make room for someone who can do the job. I've got a friend who deployed over 75 months since 9-11. He has a blood issue requiring a thinner. He is non deployable with a chest full of medals. He got promoted to e-8 with 3 years until retirement. He is training soldiers with his vast knowledge. I sure there are other soldier who couldn't carry his boots that need to be discharged. Before we get rid of these guys & gals, let replace the thousands of band members with an ipod.
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SGT Bryan O'Reilly
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i think it would depend on the indiv. and what they bring to the party as a skill set. and how they became non-deployable, but I have to agree with you. i have seen some sad donut punchers that were IMO an embarrassment to the svc, And also some stove up warriors who at 70% still soldiered better than most of the rest. I think it all depends on the circumstances.
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CW3 Armament Technician
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This post makes me sick. I see some like to quote the part of the Soldiers creed "I stand ready to deploy, engage..." And yet they forget about the other part "I will never leave a fallen comrade".
A good leader knows how to use ALL his Soldiers to accomplish the mission. Their weaknesses and their strengths. If we have Soldiers who get hurt in the line of duty, how can we even for a second turn our backs on them???
The new SMA stated there are 50,000 nondeployable Soldiers that need to go. So the plan is to get rid of these 50,000, recruit another 50,000, break them, wash-rinse-repeat. Do we really think there is an endless supply of civilians willing to take their place? Do we really think we have the money to continue this expensive cycle?? Can we really afford to let the experience of those 50,000 go?? Are you kidding me?? I can't say enough how disgusted I am with the ones who think deployability is everything.
And by the way, this is why there is regulations that prevent leaders from sending a Soldier packing based strictly on deployability. Check out AR 635-40. A soldier will not be referred to MEB solely based on deployability.
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SPC David Hannaman
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It depends, if someone is in an MOS that needs to be done "in theatre" then yes, they can't do their job and shouldn't be promoted.

HOWEVER, if someone is indispensable and in an MOS that can be done effectively without deployment (I'm thinking network geek or global hawk pilot) then why not? We don't want to loose high demand, training intensive (and expensive) personnel because they have no future in the military.
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