Posted on Jun 16, 2014
If you could remove one AR 670-1 regulation which would it be?
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If you could take ONE part of AR 670-1 out of the regulation what would it be?
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DA Pam 670-1
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The uniform policy.
Every time we get a new higher in command about to retire we change duty uniform, pt uniform, boot policy. Only to line the outgoing leaderships pockets with soldiers money because he has stock in the company making the "only authorized" available
Every time we get a new higher in command about to retire we change duty uniform, pt uniform, boot policy. Only to line the outgoing leaderships pockets with soldiers money because he has stock in the company making the "only authorized" available
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Yellow lenses should be allowed, at the very least on the shooting range. Not that it's enforced on the range anyway.
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MAJ John Adams
Shooting glasses ought to be mandatory. If a soldier wants to get a tint to improve contrast, as long as the soldier buys them that should be fine. Uniformity is a good thing, but...
ETA: I intended there to be an elipsis after the "but".
ETA: I intended there to be an elipsis after the "but".
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Great question! The no-sunglasses on head or around neck rule. It's hard to enforce because so many disregard it, especially senior leaders, and it just makes sense to put glasses on our heads so we don't lose track of them.
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LTC John Wilson
Question: How'd you ever make it to First Sergeant if you're FOR the use of umbrellas with the uniform??? :-)
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I'm pretty much good with the reg the way it is, but along the lines of appearance, I feel AR 600-9 is to lenient on the body fat standards when it comes to the tape. It's not just an appearance issue with this, it is also a soldier health issue. An obese soldier presents with more health risk and long-term cost to the DoD healthcare system. Maybe allowing higher percentage of body fat in direct proportion with how well a soldier scores on the APFT would be good. Some dudes are just brick shithouses and weigh more and have different proportions because they are muscular, but they max the APFT.
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As someone who clears the PT test with 80 in each event but sits right at the 24% on tape, the entire tape test needs to be changed. In ACTUAL body fat I'm around 19% which still isn't stellar but it's a perfect example of someone who only carries weight in the belly. Honestly, if I'm passing PT well above minimum standards, who cares? I'm a lot healthier than a lot of the guys who can barely pass PT but are in proper h/w regs without having to be taped.
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SGM (Join to see)
I really hope the Army decides to take a less parochial view of health and fitness in the future. If we tout the whole soldier concept, we have to expect soldiers, as all humans, will have shortcomings. I think it is important to look at the whole picture and not get too stuck on singular data points. We must have standards, but they must reflect reality and be feasible. I understand the needs/intents for body fat standards, but some soldiers such as those who excel in other areas of fitness should enjoy *some* type of give and take. That is why I feel your APFT score should fit in with the tape test. Conversely, if you want to score bare minimums on your APFT, be prepared to demonstrate some give in take by passing a much more strict height, weight, and tape.
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SGT Jon Creager
The tape does not work on everyone. I always was in the 270 apt score but 245 or higher. You say thats not fit. The end of the day who is still going the lean machine or the fatboy. I was still goign when the lean kids were done done done. I ran Nuremberg night of the marathon at 215 lbs and 6ft tall. finished in five hours flat some lean boys never finished!!
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PFC Charles Sanders
If you max PT test then your weight/tape shouldn't matter, period. Go ahead and take them for the data, but there should be no disciplinary action for weight/tape if a soldier maxes their PT. They're obviously in shape at that point.
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MAJ John Adams
Under most situations, I'd agree with you. Except under operational conditions (training or for real) wearing headgear should be a personal choice. Not the TYPE of headgear, just whether or not you wear it. Exceptions would be formations and special occasions.
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SGT Andrews, try surgical tubing. Cut it perfectly to size so it doesn't overhang the front of the earlobe and no one will notice.
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It would either be the tattoo policy, hands in pockets, or beards in uniform for me.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
I think walking around with your Army gloves on looks too casual. But, I remember in the Corps that if you carried stuff in the cargo pockets of your cammies (unless in the field), so your pockets were not flat and sleek looking was frowned upon. What's a cargo pocket for? No one ever had a good answer for that one.
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When I first retired I was allowed to change any regulation that I wanted to. If you are still active duty then you should be prepared to follow the orders of those appointed to make the orders. That is what made me different from the other people of the world for all those years. That fad which is itching you today will go away when you make the necessary changes in your life. Since you made the individual decision to follow regulations (AR 670-1), or any other guidelines "Be proud" of the seriousness of your daily actions. In the twilight of your days your appreciation of the moments of your youth becomes vivid and concise. We live in a real world so be true to each commitment. Not to argue or debate just looking back over the last several decades. STAY STRONG
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