If you found out your Leader or Immediate Supervisor was doing something against the law, like fraud, what would you do?

LTC Stephen F. You were very fortunate. I've seen and heard of some situations that were pretty tough to deal with.

COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Like my boss that hired me charging my dinner on a company charge card and having me repay him in cash. Who promoted me five times with a 300% increase in pay.

CPT (Join to see) Well stated. Been down this road before - you are right on target!

MAJ Ken Landgren - In general. But then, in general includes you as part of the whole. It should not matter if the other person will fight dirty. it should be expected and taken into account as to how and when one acts. It is imperative, however, that one does act if they have actionable evidence. If they do not have actionable evidence of a problem, then they are not ready to act. If they do not know what to do to keep their butt from being shot off (e.g. how and who to present it to), then they are not ready to act.
If they have that and still fear, then there is a broader problem, including, possibly, the person who is protecting themselves by not reporting a problem. We all signed up to protect our country against all enemies foreign and domestic, up to and including sacrificing our lives. If the enemy is someone who is stealing, or otherwise dishonoring our force, there is a professional duty there.
I am saying it does not matter versus honor, duty and whether to report. It can matter as to intelligence, tactics and timing.
Major, perhaps you could please clarify what you meant by your comment:
"For those who mention Moral Courage, that is true. They will fight dirty.", just as I have clarified mine for you here? What are you actually saying?

Those who commit crimes or break regulation often erase evidence, make up evidence, attack witnesses and subordinates. They can make life miserable. Some people don't want to go through that. It takes moral courage to prepare for that kind of fight.

CAPT John Kittler - Have you ever taken on a superior with a lot more power than you? It often comes down to their word against yours, and usually the one with superior power wins.

CAPT John Kittler - I am saying it takes moral courage to fight with a good chance of losing the battle. There is also the pressure of being fired. Can a family sustain itself on only one income? Is it imperative to spend $25,000 on an attorney to help you even if there is a good chance of losing? It's not all cut and dry. The superior will often use the organization against the whistleblower. So you tell me, if a whistleblower faces adverse actions like being fired, what is the right thing to do? Have you ever been a whistleblower?

That’s not surprising at all. USAREC was the most corrupt branch I ever personally witnessed. When I had the opportunity to leave six months early, shortly after 9/11, I jumped on it. Sometimes it pays to be combat arms. I compared recruiting command to the mafia- If you’re a 79R, you’re a “made man”. If not, you’re a pawn that is easily sacrificed to help the “family”. I saw way too many detailed recruiters hemmed up for crap that career recruiters were doing routinely.

SGT Paul (Eric) Haines Yeah, I was a 13F. Got shoved into recruiting because TRADOC didn’t like a SGT AIT instructor.

While in recruiting I saw many cases of double standards, when they came after me, I had facts and people got fired at the top and retirement was given to some.

Damn 4 ranks

A1C (Join to see) It was about 15 years ago, and the command kept it pretty quiet, so most of us never knew of any details. But they just put out the word to address him as Seaman instead of Chief. I'm pretty sure he ended up in the brig somewhere.

Never seen that before. Pretty clever CO - separate CO Masts for each offense? I have vacated a suspended bust and added another bust to take an E5 to an E3, but not sure I can see how to take 4 ranks except via GCM or SPCM. That ex-chief is lucky he did not go the Brig for a long while. I bet he ended up going out with High Year Tenure. Well deserved for that s-bird.

MAJ (Join to see) - If you haven't seen waste then you aren't looking for it. KC-10 aircraft was a waste, already being replaced by the new model and the old model still out preforms it. Cost of materials? thousands of dollars for a small panel? If we were underfunded it is because someone negotiated contracts horribly.

Ultimately, this is a budgetary/financial quandary that cannot ever work smartly or without the typical 80/20 ratio of famine to feast. It was the same thing the entire time I was active duty Navy (1997 - 2008). If we were in port during the last couple months or so of the fiscal year, GSA runs were in full-tilt. Flashlights, Gerber multi tools and a whole deuce and a half worth of rags were the norm in engineering. Deployed was similar just a whole lot more stuff that probably cost an absolute fortune in freight charges.

Now the other characters that are discussed in this thread appear absolutely criminal and a disgrace to their peers, subordinates and nation alike.

SSgt (Join to see) - Certainly, there's a lot of waste that occurs (pretty much every end-of-the-fiscal-year furniture purchase, for example). But not all September spending is wasteful. The last thing a CO wants to do is tell his boss, "Hey, we're out of cash, so we need more to meet the mission requirement you just assigned us." So they're careful with their budget, and defer some important spending until they're sure that they'll be able to accomplish all of their missions, and then cut the money loose for the things that had been deferred through the rest of the fiscal year.

LCDR Robert S. - My beliefs align closely to constitutional libertarian, and one of the big things for me is taxation and fraud/waste. Every bit of waste small or big is criminal in my eyes and I think a lot more needs to be done. I am all for having a strong military, but good decisions need to be made at the top level. Many of our government contracts need to be renegotiated.

SGT Christopher Helvie would hope they would have searched the supply or S6 first to see if it had been turned in.

True. Standard sop.

I'm guessing he had multiple alimonies he had to pay for and used that as justification.

LTC (Join to see) - She probably never even kissed dude. Why do I feel like that female LT wasn't the brightest bulb in the box?