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RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.

What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?

Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?

How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
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Your simple question holds a complexity of possible answers. Simple yes and no, may miss the mark; right or wrong my also be preconditioned by a life of learning where you find yourself as fitting in, only to realize you may not like your role. Are you sacrificing yourself only in a moral-ethical cause, or are you sacrificing the entire war and altering the direction of humanity?

In this conscious world, our moral compass has been set by now. We believe in what we do. We see ourselves as ethical, moral beings; we see our comrades as serving the same cause as our brothers in arms. We will not leave them behind. The mission comes first. We call it duty. We are devoted to duty, honor, country (Constitution) and find those qualities are resident in our leader, though sometimes through a foggy lens.

When in doubt, win the war.

It’s up to you to decide for yourself, which war must be won. You will most likely be sacrificing yourself either way. Your first instinct is always noble. I choose to sacrifice myself. This is your higher self translated by ego and personality talking.

Your second instinct is usually the necessary call: Win the war, fight on.

The answer is simple only when you know all the facts and lives are not in jeopardy.

Pray you are not in battle with the deep state as POTUS seems to be right now. Layer upon layer of complexities of the deep state emerge as the multi-headed dragon biting at him in their team effort, each dragon’s head biting at POTUS in service-to-self caring nothing about anyone but itself. As you read this missive the deep state has finally realized, the only way to get rid of POTUS is to kill him. It is now a fight to the finish.

USING THE LOCKDOWN

Lockdown by Robert David Steele:

Arresting child trafficking rings, the deep state Achilles Heel.

“It’s good to keep people out of the way whilst they arrest these incredibly dangerous and powerful people because they will not go down without a fight.”

When in doubt, win the war.

If you see some hand of the divine at play, observe with awe.
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Spoken like a politician or lawyer. Honor and truth are very simple things. You either forgot this, or never learned it.
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My 1SG slept with at least 6 different females under his belt.. yes same freaking company.. he walked.. but should have been PCSed to the USDB.
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Short answer, yes I would turn this in. Longer answer, you would have to be careful how you do it as there would obviously be many pitfalls to sidestep in this process, especially the way the military does things. This is basically the same "greed" that infests this nation right now by all the corporations and the government, in order to finance their little side projects or themselves personally, as in the 1st Sgt. Healy's story. This is nothing new for the military or the nation, I think greed has been with us since the dawn of time and over that time has gotten even more and more sophisticated in nature and in process. I personally have not been party to anything like this in my career and am happy for that because I think it would a definite burden on your sense, your life in general and your future way of thinking towards your fellow personnel, and almost building a wall of a certain level of mistrust with them. Life would not be easy from that point forward. Would I have protection, technically yes: https://whistleblowerlaw.com/military-whistleblower-protection-act-protect/. Now, that be stated, would your fellow personnel look at you differently if they found out it was you, most likely, you might find yourself being mildly "shunned" as it were in some areas of your service life, not a nice thought going forward, but you must let your own personal morals, ethics and values guide you in this, because in the end whatever may happen, you still have to look yourself in the eye and have respect for what you see.
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When you raised your hand you took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. So to me this includes all the laws so if someone is committing a crime regardless of who it is they need to be turned in. I have a zero tolerance policy.
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Fires in the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings only burnt in one office (one place) some 20 to 30 minutes before it moved to fine new fuel and only some 600 to 1,400 degrees F. at the hottest, and not anywhere hot enough to melt steel. And in areas that were not hit by the airplanes, the fire proofing was likely not knocked off the steel beams and columns. And the 47 story tall WTC building seven was not hit by an airplane.

The following links/url will take you to the You-tube videos wherein experts explain the evidence that points to the official story as one big fat LIE, and our US government agency National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (John Gross) Lied.

Steel melts at 2,750 degree F. See the photo of yellow hot steel (2,192 F.) being removed from the WTC wreckage at http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html)
There is a video of yellow colored steel dripping off the side of the south Twin Tower just before it collapsed. It is not aluminum metal because it is silver colored as a liquid.

Video classes Part 2, about the science of 9/11 truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrogMzHaFtg&list=UUL-c_zvZ3lhlU7NU1ikxgmQ


Part 3, focuses on why there was molten steel found in the wreckage piles.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/videos/video/201-9-11-an-architect-s-guide-part-3-the-twin-towers-and-extreme-heat



9/11 Whistleblower: Kevin Ryan former UL scientist
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kevin+ryan++9%2F11&view=detail&mid=C54C4CE39E87D2ED79A2C54C4CE39E87D2ED79A2&FORM=VIRE&fbclid=IwAR1iZF8PwQQK9UXlmtOq0lFdBxvCK-82L2juolGGcqatD-gYXsIsZ2o7O-A

“But someone would have talked by now”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWRLoNOhRs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3ziEq6mBVhmZjSqAZmfK6u6T2PRvXAXQZ0zB6fajhFul0e6a2xvaqbCHI

The 9/11 Commission whistleblowers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOBwfEWXxPY

9/11 Whistleblower: Michael Springmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj_KOoVmAI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1EpjU9sW3J5R9JtO4PYgYM5-ArljH-L3K0nRSgGVjNC8YLI9nvheP3vCU

9/11 Whistleblowers: William Rodriguez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irNqB5N0o30&fbclid=IwAR1l0AZ61pJrzBrVFhz1FKE2lDpc5LaL15kXtQD4tNhNEKJJya5VKA2G3-Y


The New Pearl Harbor revisited
https://www.facebook.com/sultan.abdallah70/videos/ [login to see] 08442/UzpfSTcxOTg1MDYwMjpWSzoxMTM0MzkyMDQ2NzIwNzIz/

The 9/11 Official Story is Total BS
66 pages of the most shocking evidence
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+9%2F11+Official+Story+is+Total+BS&ref=nb_sb_noss

or my 13 page summary.

send me an email at [login to see] and I will reply with it attach for free.

9/11 and Anthrax: An Interview with Dr. Graeme MacQueen
https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/2/messages/134262?.src=fp
We went to war in Afghanistan via the half-baked AUMF, but Al Qaeda or Talban could not have made the wreckage piles at ground zero as hot as they were. THE AFGHANISTAN PAPERS A secret history of the war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/documents-database/

Resolution for a New Congressional Investigation regarding the alleged terrorist incidents on September 11, 2001


WHEREAS some 3, 281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org,) more than 15,000 scientists, including 52 Nobel laureates and 63 recipients of the National Medal of Science, some 320 skilled commercial of military pilots (Pilots for 9/11 Truth), and some 58 elected public officials are saying that scientific irrefutably evidence proves that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed by explosives.

WHEREAS If over 3,281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org) told us the school your kids go to will very likely collapse, would you still allow them to go to that school?
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CW3 Dick McManus
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There was melted steel found in the wreckage piles of the World Trade Center buildings. It takes 2,750 degrees F. in a blast furnace to melt steel. There was also found within the wreckage piles was concrete that had been melted and within the cooled (now solid) concrete was a hand gun. On Nov. 27, 2001, six weeks after September 11th the temperature in the wreckage pile was 1,100 degree F. And all this time fire fighters were pouring water on the wreckage. We have photos of steel beams being removed and they were yellow hot. If steel is yellow hot that means it is (2,192 F.) It takes 3,200 degrees F. to melt concrete.
There was an incendiary called super thermate or nano-thermate found in the dust at ground zero. When nano-thermate is ignited (a chemical reaction started by heating) some 5,000 degrees F. of heat is the result. This nano compound was made for the US Defense Department at Lawrence Livermore labs a few years prior to 9/11. And when nano-thermate burns it produces iron microspheres when the liquid iron molecules cool (just like rain drops are spherical due to air pressure). The dust at ground zero consisted of six percent iron microspheres, dust away from ground zero in New York City has about 0.04 percent iron particles. At six percent, that brings the total weight of the iron microsphere within the three square miles of dust on the streets of New York City, to some 10 tons.

NIST did not explain how two or three inches thick steel I-beams were reduced to paper thin, with holes in the steel looking like Swiss cheese, or how sulfur molecules were found in these thinned pieces of steel. Structural steel is not made containing sulfur molecules. Nano-thermate is a compound made with some amount of sulfur. The melted steel (a liquid), when it cooled, some of the sulfur remained in the cool steel. Structural steel does not contain sulfur.

I am charging Shyam Sunder and John Gross lead investigators on the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) report with criminal negligence and lying in the NIST report.

Here is a video of the best engineering explanation explaining that NIST lied. https://www.ae911truth.org/project-due-diligence

After over a year of study, Dr. Leroy Hulsey, a forensic structural engineer and chair of the Civil and Environmental Engineering Department at the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) along with his two PhD students analyzed data from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)’s report about the collapse on 9/11 of World Trade Center Building Seven (WTC 7). They found errors within NIST’s analysis and also they came to the conclusion that WTC 7 did not collapsed due to fire as NIST reported.
http://www.ae911truth.org/.../319-news-media-events-fraud...

How did the alleged 9/11 hijackers know about the US Air Force war game on-going prior to and during 9/11 so they had a good chance of not being shot down? Know that the whole northeast section of the US did not have enough F-16s jets, because so many US Air Force fighter jets were up in Alaska and Canada on an annual war game. This is done to counter any Russian bombers flying over the North Pole.

Tell me how the terrorist knew the US Air Force would be conducting some 13 war games during 9/11 or in the weeks prior to then? How did the terrorists know the best places to turn off transponders when making u-turns heading back to the east and where air traffic controllers could not easily see them doing that on radar?

How did the alleged terrorist know that other commercial airplanes would be crossing their paths at the time the alleged hijackers turning off the transponders. Turning off the transponders as both airplanes were close by each other, it made it very easy for air traffic controller to become confused and to see that the hijacked airplanes were not heading west.

And the hijacked airplanes also made u-turns toward the east after turning off their transponders and did so in areas of the US that had poor radar coverage. How did these alleged hijackers know about these blind spots in FAA and NORAD radar coverage?

The odds just add up to not due to chance.

General Myers also did not volunteer to the 9/11 Commission that on September 11, 2001, the US Air Force was doing war game Vigilant Guardian 01-1 and it was a war game with jets playing the role of a hijacking (inside/inside) and with the Air Force putting false radar blips onto FAA and NORAD radars. Vigilant Warrior was the code name for real airplanes and causing FAA to deal with as many as 22 likely hijackings. At least two of these 22 involved having real commercial airlines pilots to punch in their emergence code to activate an radio signal warning to FAA that a hijacking was occurring, attempting to confuse FAA Air Traffic Controllers and NORAD.

The Air Force exercise Vigilant Warrior was being run by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard B. Myers and NORAD. The word “Warrior” means the exercise was approved and controlled by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General at the National Military Command Center (NMCC). He should have stopped this exercise. He did not stop this exercise until 09:30 am or later. At 09:42 am AA77 crashed into the Pentagon.

Why didn’t Cheney cancel all the war games given all the intelligence warnings the prior 9/11?
In May of 2001, by Presidential order, Vice President Dick Cheney was put in direct command of all war-game and field exercise training and scheduling through several agencies, especially FEMA. Given the all the prior warnings the terrorist were planning something, he should have cancelled all the Air Force war games. Why did Cheney refuse to authorize the shoot down of AA77 that was headed for the Pentagon? I bet there were Stinger missiles protecting the Pentagon, the Capital and the White House (shoulder fired surface to air missiles). He was warned minute by minute of the approaching threat.
Resolution for a New Congressional Investigation regarding the alleged terrorist incidents on September 11, 2001


WHEREAS some 3, 281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org,) more than 15,000 scientists, including 52 Nobel laureates and 63 recipients of the National Medal of Science, some 320 skilled commercial of military pilots (Pilots for 9/11 Truth), and some 58 elected public officials are saying that scientific irrefutably evidence proves that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed by explosives.

WHEREAS If over 3,281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org) told us the school your kids go to will very likely collapse, would you still allow them to go to that school?


The 9/11 Official Story is Total BS
66 pages of the most shocking evidence
And/or my 13 paged summary of witness statements and irrefutable scientific evidence.
send me an email at [login to see] and I will reply with it attach for free.

or For sale at Amazon Kindle books
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss (then search for the titles
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Fires in the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings only burnt in one office (one place) some 20 to 30 minutes before it moved to fine new fuel and only some 600 to 1,400 degrees F. at the hottest, and not anywhere hot enough to melt steel. And in areas that were not hit by the airplanes, the fire proofing was likely not knocked off the steel beams and columns. And the 47 story tall WTC building seven was not hit by an airplane.

The following links/url will take you to the You-tube videos wherein experts explain the evidence that points to the official story as one big fat LIE, and our US government agency National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (John Gross) Lied.

Steel melts at 2,750 degree F. See the photo of yellow hot steel (2,192 F.) being removed from the WTC wreckage at http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html)
There is a video of yellow colored steel dripping off the side of the south Twin Tower just before it collapsed. It is not aluminum metal because it is silver colored as a liquid.

Video classes Part 2, about the science of 9/11 truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrogMzHaFtg&list=UUL-c_zvZ3lhlU7NU1ikxgmQ


Part 3, focuses on why there was molten steel found in the wreckage piles.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/videos/video/201-9-11-an-architect-s-guide-part-3-the-twin-towers-and-extreme-heat



9/11 Whistleblower: Kevin Ryan former UL scientist
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kevin+ryan++9%2F11&view=detail&mid=C54C4CE39E87D2ED79A2C54C4CE39E87D2ED79A2&FORM=VIRE&fbclid=IwAR1iZF8PwQQK9UXlmtOq0lFdBxvCK-82L2juolGGcqatD-gYXsIsZ2o7O-A

“But someone would have talked by now”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWRLoNOhRs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3ziEq6mBVhmZjSqAZmfK6u6T2PRvXAXQZ0zB6fajhFul0e6a2xvaqbCHI

The 9/11 Commission whistleblowers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOBwfEWXxPY

9/11 Whistleblower: Michael Springmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj_KOoVmAI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1EpjU9sW3J5R9JtO4PYgYM5-ArljH-L3K0nRSgGVjNC8YLI9nvheP3vCU

9/11 Whistleblowers: William Rodriguez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irNqB5N0o30&fbclid=IwAR1l0AZ61pJrzBrVFhz1FKE2lDpc5LaL15kXtQD4tNhNEKJJya5VKA2G3-Y


The New Pearl Harbor revisited
https://www.facebook.com/sultan.abdallah70/videos/ [login to see] 08442/UzpfSTcxOTg1MDYwMjpWSzoxMTM0MzkyMDQ2NzIwNzIz/

The 9/11 Official Story is Total BS
66 pages of the most shocking evidence
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+9%2F11+Official+Story+is+Total+BS&ref=nb_sb_noss

or my 13 page summary.

send me an email at [login to see] and I will reply with it attach for free.

9/11 and Anthrax: An Interview with Dr. Graeme MacQueen
https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/2/messages/134262?.src=fp
We went to war in Afghanistan via the half-baked AUMF, but Al Qaeda or Talban could not have made the wreckage piles at ground zero as hot as they were. THE AFGHANISTAN PAPERS A secret history of the war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/documents-database/

Resolution for a New Congressional Investigation regarding the alleged terrorist incidents on September 11, 2001


WHEREAS some 3, 281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org,) more than 15,000 scientists, including 52 Nobel laureates and 63 recipients of the National Medal of Science, some 320 skilled commercial of military pilots (Pilots for 9/11 Truth), and some 58 elected public officials are saying that scientific irrefutably evidence proves that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed by explosives.

WHEREAS If over 3,281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org) told us the school your kids go to will very likely collapse, would you still allow them to go to that school?
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There was melted steel found in the wreckage piles of the World Trade Center buildings. It takes 2,750 degrees F. in a blast furnace to melt steel. There was also found within the wreckage piles was concrete that had been melted and within the cooled (now solid) concrete was a hand gun. On Nov. 27, 2001, six weeks after September 11th the temperature in the wreckage pile was 1,100 degree F. And all this time fire fighters were pouring water on the wreckage. We have photos of steel beams being removed and they were yellow hot. If steel is yellow hot that means it is (2,192 F.) It takes 3,200 degrees F. to melt concrete.
There was an incendiary called super thermate or nano-thermate found in the dust at ground zero. When nano-thermate is ignited (a chemical reaction started by heating) some 5,000 degrees F. of heat is the result. This nano compound was made for the US Defense Department at Lawrence Livermore labs a few years prior to 9/11. And when nano-thermate burns it produces iron microspheres when the liquid iron molecules cool (just like rain drops are spherical due to air pressure). The dust at ground zero consisted of six percent iron microspheres, dust away from ground zero in New York City has about 0.04 percent iron particles. At six percent, that brings the total weight of the iron microsphere within the three square miles of dust on the streets of New York City, to some 10 tons.

NIST did not explain how two or three inches thick steel I-beams were reduced to paper thin, with holes in the steel looking like Swiss cheese, or how sulfur molecules were found in these thinned pieces of steel. Structural steel is not made containing sulfur molecules. Nano-thermate is a compound made with some amount of sulfur. The melted steel (a liquid), when it cooled, some of the sulfur remained in the cool steel. Structural steel does not contain sulfur.

I am charging Shyam Sunder and John Gross lead investigators on the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) report with criminal negligence and lying in the NIST report.

Here is a video of the best engineering explanation explaining that NIST lied. https://www.ae911truth.org/project-due-diligence

After over a year of study, Dr. Leroy Hulsey, a forensic structural engineer and chair of the Civil and Environmental Engineering Department at the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) along with his two PhD students analyzed data from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)’s report about the collapse on 9/11 of World Trade Center Building Seven (WTC 7). They found errors within NIST’s analysis and also they came to the conclusion that WTC 7 did not collapsed due to fire as NIST reported.
http://www.ae911truth.org/.../319-news-media-events-fraud...

How did the alleged 9/11 hijackers know about the US Air Force war game on-going prior to and during 9/11 so they had a good chance of not being shot down? Know that the whole northeast section of the US did not have enough F-16s jets, because so many US Air Force fighter jets were up in Alaska and Canada on an annual war game. This is done to counter any Russian bombers flying over the North Pole.

Tell me how the terrorist knew the US Air Force would be conducting some 13 war games during 9/11 or in the weeks prior to then? How did the terrorists know the best places to turn off transponders when making u-turns heading back to the east and where air traffic controllers could not easily see them doing that on radar?

How did the alleged terrorist know that other commercial airplanes would be crossing their paths at the time the alleged hijackers turning off the transponders. Turning off the transponders as both airplanes were close by each other, it made it very easy for air traffic controller to become confused and to see that the hijacked airplanes were not heading west.

And the hijacked airplanes also made u-turns toward the east after turning off their transponders and did so in areas of the US that had poor radar coverage. How did these alleged hijackers know about these blind spots in FAA and NORAD radar coverage?

The odds just add up to not due to chance.

General Myers also did not volunteer to the 9/11 Commission that on September 11, 2001, the US Air Force was doing war game Vigilant Guardian 01-1 and it was a war game with jets playing the role of a hijacking (inside/inside) and with the Air Force putting false radar blips onto FAA and NORAD radars. Vigilant Warrior was the code name for real airplanes and causing FAA to deal with as many as 22 likely hijackings. At least two of these 22 involved having real commercial airlines pilots to punch in their emergence code to activate an radio signal warning to FAA that a hijacking was occurring, attempting to confuse FAA Air Traffic Controllers and NORAD.

The Air Force exercise Vigilant Warrior was being run by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard B. Myers and NORAD. The word “Warrior” means the exercise was approved and controlled by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General at the National Military Command Center (NMCC). He should have stopped this exercise. He did not stop this exercise until 09:30 am or later. At 09:42 am AA77 crashed into the Pentagon.

Why didn’t Cheney cancel all the war games given all the intelligence warnings the prior 9/11?
In May of 2001, by Presidential order, Vice President Dick Cheney was put in direct command of all war-game and field exercise training and scheduling through several agencies, especially FEMA. Given the all the prior warnings the terrorist were planning something, he should have cancelled all the Air Force war games. Why did Cheney refuse to authorize the shoot down of AA77 that was headed for the Pentagon? I bet there were Stinger missiles protecting the Pentagon, the Capital and the White House (shoulder fired surface to air missiles). He was warned minute by minute of the approaching threat.
Resolution for a New Congressional Investigation regarding the alleged terrorist incidents on September 11, 2001


WHEREAS some 3, 281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org,) more than 15,000 scientists, including 52 Nobel laureates and 63 recipients of the National Medal of Science, some 320 skilled commercial of military pilots (Pilots for 9/11 Truth), and some 58 elected public officials are saying that scientific irrefutably evidence proves that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed by explosives.

WHEREAS If over 3,281 architects and engineers (AE911truth.org) told us the school your kids go to will very likely collapse, would you still allow them to go to that school?


The 9/11 Official Story is Total BS
66 pages of the most shocking evidence
And/or my 13 paged summary of witness statements and irrefutable scientific evidence.
send me an email at [login to see] and I will reply with it attach for free.

or For sale at Amazon Kindle books
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss (then search for the titles
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I had an E-9 who after we had retired our shop's floor while government procured tiles, decided he'd take the excess to retire his off base home. My supervisor who watche him load his POV with six boxes of tiles, called the SAS and reported it. Well the SAS turned it over to the squadron commander, who it turned out was the E-9's brother in law! The commander dismissed the "appropriation" as a simple case of "revenge " by my supervisor. But the SPs's office" had reported it to the JAG's office, who just informed the E-9 to return the unopened boxes of tiles. The E-9 retired a month later with full benefits!
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