Posted on Feb 16, 2016
If you found out your Leader or Immediate Supervisor was doing something against the law, like fraud, what would you do?
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RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.
What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?
Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?
How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?
Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?
How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
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It depends. First, do I have a legal duty to report this to appropriate auithorities? Duty is the first call on my conduct. Second, in the absence of a legal duty to report, is there a likelihood that the mud will splash onto me when the poo-poo hits the propellor? If so, then I get on record with the wrongdoer and document with an impartial witness. Otherwise, who am I to judge?
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I blew the whistle on our group commander, and it resulted in no action against him, but it cost me my career.
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Maybe not illegal, but how about unethical? While I didn't turn him in, I did testify against my NCOIC when he falsely charged a L/Cpl with being UA. The SSgt had a hard on for the L/Cpl, and myself for that matter, because we would not back down from helping a women SSgt. He ordered the entire dept to refuse assistance to her in learning a programming language for a new computer system in the early 1980s. Myself and the L/Cpl still helped to train her. When the NCOIC told me, specifically, not to help, I reminded him that it was I, as a PFC, who had taught him that very same language and that I could not withhold the same knowledge from her that he had gained.
While this was not "illegal", it was, at the very least unethical.
In retribution he charged the L/Cpl as UA from a last minute field day of the barracks. However, the L/Cpl had been dismissed from work 2 hours before the announcement of the field day because he was the duty the night before.
Truth can be a powerful tool. The SSgt/NCOIC looked like the idiot he was, the L/Cpl was found not guilty by the CO and I dealt with the blowback. For 2 years he tried everything he could to get me reduced in rank from Cpl to PFC, including several false statements to my CO. In the end, I got the satisfaction of him receiving a Christmas card from Sgt Allen.
While this was not "illegal", it was, at the very least unethical.
In retribution he charged the L/Cpl as UA from a last minute field day of the barracks. However, the L/Cpl had been dismissed from work 2 hours before the announcement of the field day because he was the duty the night before.
Truth can be a powerful tool. The SSgt/NCOIC looked like the idiot he was, the L/Cpl was found not guilty by the CO and I dealt with the blowback. For 2 years he tried everything he could to get me reduced in rank from Cpl to PFC, including several false statements to my CO. In the end, I got the satisfaction of him receiving a Christmas card from Sgt Allen.
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I was a supply specialist assigned to a supply room and we had some compasses come up missing along with Binos and NVG and when they couldn’t be found everyone in the supply room had to pay for them, even though I was only there for 3 weeks At the time of things coming up missing and my insistence that I had never seen the items in question. He later got arrested for rape of an unconscious E4 female while on TDY. After that the MPs went to his house and found all the missing property. Me and the other supply personnel that were charged were not given our money back or the property that we paid for. And the MPs that found the stuff just made it disappear because they didn’t want to cause his wife anymore heart ache or financial hardship.
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I would have to have absolute proof not hearsay then depending on my relationship i might have a talk in hopes to turnaround the situation if not i would definitely turn that person in! Rank doesn't give privilege. In vietnam I was rewarded some R&R in Vung Tau with another member of my unit, we had an acting platoon Sargent who turned us in for being AWOL thinking he was getting brownie points. We were picked up and in the brig for 2 hours until the mess was straitened out! The MP's were pissed because they had to do paperwork for nothing. We made a deal! when the Jerk went on his R&R in Vung Tau i was instructed to notify the MP's "He spent the weekend in the brig" payback is a bitch!
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Visit the JAG office.
No need to get too specific during the first visit.
Simply describe what you're seeing (or believe you're seeing) and get a determination from trained legal professionals on whether it's legal or illegal.
Once that's determined, they should also be able to lend guidance on your responsibilities in the matter, if any.
No need to get too specific during the first visit.
Simply describe what you're seeing (or believe you're seeing) and get a determination from trained legal professionals on whether it's legal or illegal.
Once that's determined, they should also be able to lend guidance on your responsibilities in the matter, if any.
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It all depends on how much of a fight or how much you want to set your career back. While there is a no retaliation policy there will be retaliation and it will make your life miserable. The best course of action in my opinion would to privately talk to the person maybe they will stop. Maybe you'll end up with a bloody nose, either way you will know how to proceed after the initial interaction.
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During my career, I'd run into many situations of fraud, waste, and abuse from seniors and peers. Mostly from my time in 1st BCT in the 82nd Airborne Division and the former 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team (they fall under 25th Infantry Division now). Each time, I let the guilty party know that I knew about what they were doing, how it was wrong, and gave them the opportunity to come fix what was wrong before I let the seniors know. In some cases, the seniors were in on it. In other cases, I was simply told to "STFU and do WTF I say, not WTF I do!" Either way, I blew the whistle, and face just about every form of reprisal you can think of, up to and including being passed over for promotion. BUT I found ways to make sure they saw punishment. Just not UCMJ.
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PRECEDENT: Hilary Clinton was exonerated for the Felony Capital crimes found in her PC, because they found no Government Classified Information on it... when ANY Cop, or person who watches Cop shows can tell you... any crime 'discovered' under a lawful warrant, is NOT ignored... IT IS INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTED... NOT EXONERATED... Shame on the FBI, and ALL law enforcement who are IGNORING the Laws of the U.S. to allow criminals to be free to commit crime... especially those who are paid by we the people, to serve and protect... WE THE PEOPLE FROM OUR ENEMIES... not to serve and protect the invaders and felons >(
MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER, PROUD HONEST POLICE OFFICERS, ARE CRYING IN THEIR GRAVES AT THE PERVERSION BEING DONE TO OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM BY ENEMIES INSIDE OUR GOVERNMENT... THOSE WHO LEGISLATE LAWS LIKE DACA, TRADE DEALS, AND SANCTUARY FOR INVADERS... TRAITORS TO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHOM THEY ARE SWORN TO PROTECT FROM ALL ENEMIES >(
Edward Snowden "whistleblower" who is supposed to be protected by Law, was declared a traitor, and fled to Russia, BECAUSE HE TATTLED ON THE TRAITORS WHO ARE USING OUR TAXES TO AID OUR ENEMIES >(
LOL... blow the whistle on a criminal in these United States, AND YOU GO TO JAIL.
--> Go ahead... keep allowing criminal traitors to be in charge of this Nation... OPENLY VIOLATING EVERY PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEM TO BE LOYAL TO U.S. ....
and expect to be free to whistle blow on the criminals.
--> U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2381 TREASON: "Whoever, OWING ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES, levies war against them OR ADHERES TO THEIR ENEMIES, giving them AID AND COMFORT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ELSEWHERE, IS GUILTY OF TREASON AND SHALL SUFFER DEATH, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
According to Pelosi, Shiff, Nadler... "CHINA IS THE ENEMY! RUSSIA IS THE ENEMY!! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!"
--> As they Legislate Our Nation's PROSPEROUS BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY into the hands of OUR ENEMIES!!!
--> DECLARING THEMSELVES TO BE ABOVE THE LAW!!!!
The Law says (still) that the Death Punishment for High Treason is Handing by the Neck, Until DEAD.
No... not lynching, which breaks the neck... drawn up by a rope around the neck, until the feet can't touch the ground, and left until dead.
What did they ask during the Impeachment? What would the Founding Fathers do if they were here today, to witness Trump's crimes?
George Washington himself would execute each of the traitorous $#@%@#$% who attempted to overthrow this Republic's lawfully elected President, by overruling the entire Constitution ...
--> IMMEDIATELY... ON THE SPOT... MUSKET BALL TO THE HEAD!!!!
NO TRIAL NEEDED... THEIR TREASON IS OVERT!!!
THEIR TREASON IS CONFESSED TO THE WORLD, IN THEIR WORDS, AND THEIR SIGNATURES ON THOSE LEGISLATED TREASONOUS LAWS >(
Stop believing the media hype...
everything you need to know is right here: archives.gov ... READ the Constitution...
--> SEE THE TREASON OF OUR ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!
MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER, PROUD HONEST POLICE OFFICERS, ARE CRYING IN THEIR GRAVES AT THE PERVERSION BEING DONE TO OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM BY ENEMIES INSIDE OUR GOVERNMENT... THOSE WHO LEGISLATE LAWS LIKE DACA, TRADE DEALS, AND SANCTUARY FOR INVADERS... TRAITORS TO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHOM THEY ARE SWORN TO PROTECT FROM ALL ENEMIES >(
Edward Snowden "whistleblower" who is supposed to be protected by Law, was declared a traitor, and fled to Russia, BECAUSE HE TATTLED ON THE TRAITORS WHO ARE USING OUR TAXES TO AID OUR ENEMIES >(
LOL... blow the whistle on a criminal in these United States, AND YOU GO TO JAIL.
--> Go ahead... keep allowing criminal traitors to be in charge of this Nation... OPENLY VIOLATING EVERY PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEM TO BE LOYAL TO U.S. ....
and expect to be free to whistle blow on the criminals.
--> U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2381 TREASON: "Whoever, OWING ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES, levies war against them OR ADHERES TO THEIR ENEMIES, giving them AID AND COMFORT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ELSEWHERE, IS GUILTY OF TREASON AND SHALL SUFFER DEATH, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
According to Pelosi, Shiff, Nadler... "CHINA IS THE ENEMY! RUSSIA IS THE ENEMY!! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!"
--> As they Legislate Our Nation's PROSPEROUS BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY into the hands of OUR ENEMIES!!!
--> DECLARING THEMSELVES TO BE ABOVE THE LAW!!!!
The Law says (still) that the Death Punishment for High Treason is Handing by the Neck, Until DEAD.
No... not lynching, which breaks the neck... drawn up by a rope around the neck, until the feet can't touch the ground, and left until dead.
What did they ask during the Impeachment? What would the Founding Fathers do if they were here today, to witness Trump's crimes?
George Washington himself would execute each of the traitorous $#@%@#$% who attempted to overthrow this Republic's lawfully elected President, by overruling the entire Constitution ...
--> IMMEDIATELY... ON THE SPOT... MUSKET BALL TO THE HEAD!!!!
NO TRIAL NEEDED... THEIR TREASON IS OVERT!!!
THEIR TREASON IS CONFESSED TO THE WORLD, IN THEIR WORDS, AND THEIR SIGNATURES ON THOSE LEGISLATED TREASONOUS LAWS >(
Stop believing the media hype...
everything you need to know is right here: archives.gov ... READ the Constitution...
--> SEE THE TREASON OF OUR ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
*sigh* ... since I wrote this, a Taliban Pakistan legal immigrant, holding Public Service office in Seattle... City Council Member Kshama Sawant initiated, instigated, and led an Act of Insurrection against we the people of the United States of America... an Act that commands the removal of Citizenship, and immediate ejection from the U.S., with extreme prejudice of death by hanging, for their high treason, if they ever return,... by U.S. Law... the Insurrection Act of 1807.
I'm going to say it again... maybe someone will pay attention:
--> Go ahead... keep allowing criminal traitors to be in charge of this Nation... OPENLY VIOLATING EVERY PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEM TO BE LOYAL TO U.S. ...
AND EXPECT TO RETAIN YOUR DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, AND INDEPENDENCE FROM OUR ENEMIES... AS YOU VOTE TO RE-ELECT THE ENEMIES IN OUR PUBLIC SERVANT OFFICES... WHO OPENLY GIFT U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES, AND DEMAND OUR ENEMIES HAVE SANCTUARY FROM THE LAW...
--> WHEN NO U.S. CITIZEN HAS SANCTUARY FROM ANY U.S. LAW...
NOT ME... NOT YOU THE READER... NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS SANCTUARY FROM THE LEAST OF U.S. LAWS!!! >(
WAKE UP!
STOP BUYING THE PROPAGANDA THAT OUR ENEMIES MY HAVE OUR BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY, IF OUR TREASONOUS SERVANTS LEGISLATE IT...
--> THAT IS HIGH TREASON PEOPLE!!!
WAKE UP... STOP LETTING THEM GIVE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES!!!!!
WAKE UP... STOP LETTING THEM GIVE THE RIGHT TO RAPE, ROB, AND MURDER U.S. TO THE CRIMINALS OF THE WORLD, WHILE WE MUST ALLOW THOSE CRIMINALS TO RAPE, ROB, AND MURDER U.S. BY LAW >(
--> OUR LAW IS SUPPOSED TO PUNISH THE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT THE INNOCENT...
NOT PROTECT THE CRIMINALS, AND PUNISH THE INNOCENT >(
OXYMORON LAW!!!!
(no, I did not just insult you with a bad word... look it up)
(now... I will insult you with a negative word... take offense if you wish, and IF the shoe fits :)
--> MORONS!!!!!
WAKE UP!
I'm going to say it again... maybe someone will pay attention:
--> Go ahead... keep allowing criminal traitors to be in charge of this Nation... OPENLY VIOLATING EVERY PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THEM TO BE LOYAL TO U.S. ...
AND EXPECT TO RETAIN YOUR DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, AND INDEPENDENCE FROM OUR ENEMIES... AS YOU VOTE TO RE-ELECT THE ENEMIES IN OUR PUBLIC SERVANT OFFICES... WHO OPENLY GIFT U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES, AND DEMAND OUR ENEMIES HAVE SANCTUARY FROM THE LAW...
--> WHEN NO U.S. CITIZEN HAS SANCTUARY FROM ANY U.S. LAW...
NOT ME... NOT YOU THE READER... NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS SANCTUARY FROM THE LEAST OF U.S. LAWS!!! >(
WAKE UP!
STOP BUYING THE PROPAGANDA THAT OUR ENEMIES MY HAVE OUR BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY, IF OUR TREASONOUS SERVANTS LEGISLATE IT...
--> THAT IS HIGH TREASON PEOPLE!!!
WAKE UP... STOP LETTING THEM GIVE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES!!!!!
WAKE UP... STOP LETTING THEM GIVE THE RIGHT TO RAPE, ROB, AND MURDER U.S. TO THE CRIMINALS OF THE WORLD, WHILE WE MUST ALLOW THOSE CRIMINALS TO RAPE, ROB, AND MURDER U.S. BY LAW >(
--> OUR LAW IS SUPPOSED TO PUNISH THE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT THE INNOCENT...
NOT PROTECT THE CRIMINALS, AND PUNISH THE INNOCENT >(
OXYMORON LAW!!!!
(no, I did not just insult you with a bad word... look it up)
(now... I will insult you with a negative word... take offense if you wish, and IF the shoe fits :)
--> MORONS!!!!!
WAKE UP!
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
--> 9 MONTHS LATER... Kshama Sawant STILL reigns as Queen over Seattle, as she STILL incites and leads the criminals of Seattle, and anyone willing to rape, rob, murder, and destroy the lives of U.S. Citizens... aided by the Seattle City Council, free of any interference by the Police, the Mayor of Seattle, Washington State Congress, the Governor, the U.S. Congress, President, OR ANY CITIZENS OF THIS NATION!!!
WTF??
ARE WE REALLY WILLING TO GET ON OUR KNEES TO OPPRESSIVE DICTATORS???
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER OUR NATION!!!
READ THE CONSTITUTION ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS...
WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS OF WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
--> EVERY DAMN WORD OF THAT DOCUMANT >(
READ THE INSURRECTION ACT OF 1807 ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT?
READ IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION ACT ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT?
READ H.R. 4152 ... The Ukraine Treaty... WHAT ARE THE COMMANDED CONDITIONS FOR UKRAINE TO RECEIVE U.S. AID, AND THE LOAN OF $1 BILLION U.S. TAX DOLLARS!
--> WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT UNDER THAT TREATY??
--> What did VICE PRESIDENT Joe Biden do? He withheld that aid... until Ukraine fired their prosecutor... so Biden wouldn't be convicted of Russian Collusion. Quid Pro Quo... to evade a noose... because ONLY the President, ONLY with the advice and consent of at least 2/3 of the SENATE (NOT Speaker Pelosi) ... may make, change, or negotiate, renegotiate any terms of ANY TREATY. What Biden did was High Treason... that could have resulted in War. He is supposed to have been stripped of his U.S. Citizenship and banned for life on pain of death... but he is President NOW... so all that Treason is exonerated?
READ THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ... THE GRIEVANCES LISTED APPLY AGAIN ... AS DICTATED ON WE THE PEOPLE ... BY OUR SERVANTS! >(
--> UNEQUAL TAXATION ... Wealthy don't pay... the poor pay.
--> DICTATED PONZI SCHEMES! The only difference between King George III's Tea Tax... and ACA... product, date, ruler dictating the tax... can't or don't pay the tax? YOU DIE ... BY LAW... NO CARE FOR YOU.
--> FOREIGN CITIZENS BROUGHT HERE TO EAT OUT OUR SUBSTANCE... WHO CAN NOT BE CITIIZENS... AND/OR ARE OUR ENEMIES!!!!!
--> THEY DENY U.S. OUR LAWS, GOOD AND WHOLESOME FOR U.S. ... TO DICTATE LAWS THAT TRADE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES, TO TAKE OUR PROSPERITY AND IMPOVERISH U.S. FOR THE ... LEGISLATED ... COMFORT OF THE DICTATOR RULERS OF PLANET EARTH!!!
Keep reading that document... SEE OUR OPPRESSORS REVEALED!!!
Do please... start using your own brains to decide the future of you, your posterity, and this Nation...
NOT the brains of the brainwashers who demand that you believe your Government has the legitimate right to DICTATE your Lives, Livelihoods, and Death... by THEIR Law... that throws OUR Law into the trash >(
THEY DO NOT!!!
Too late to try to Vote them out... the Vote is rigged.
ONLY way to cure this ill is to remove them bodily from their offices... try them for their overt treason... --> their signatures, that take from U.S., to DICTATE aid our Enemies ... AGAINST OUR WILL...
--> AND HOLD ELECTIONS TO REPLACE THEM ... WITH U.S. CITZENS WILLING TO OBEY THEIR OATHS OF LOYALTY TO U.S. AND OUR CONSTITUTION!
or... you can get on your knees...to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands... to join the traitors... in hopes the enemy will let you live.
--> I wouldn't count on oppressors to allow free people to live...on this jewel of the planet... when they have permission from our traitors to take it as they wish.
I wear black from this day forward... in mourning for freedom lost...
My Flag is at half mast, until the enemy burns it as I die, in memory of all those who died ... in vain ... for freedom for idiots who PREFER TO BE SLAVES to their rulers.
Where are the people with the hearts of the Founding Fathers... willing to stand against tyrants ... FOR FREEDOM?
One shot fired, by Gestapo.. at the Capitol on Jan 6 ... four U.S. Citizens dead ... and all is lost?
sad.
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WTF??
ARE WE REALLY WILLING TO GET ON OUR KNEES TO OPPRESSIVE DICTATORS???
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER OUR NATION!!!
READ THE CONSTITUTION ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS...
WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS OF WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
--> EVERY DAMN WORD OF THAT DOCUMANT >(
READ THE INSURRECTION ACT OF 1807 ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT?
READ IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION ACT ... WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT?
READ H.R. 4152 ... The Ukraine Treaty... WHAT ARE THE COMMANDED CONDITIONS FOR UKRAINE TO RECEIVE U.S. AID, AND THE LOAN OF $1 BILLION U.S. TAX DOLLARS!
--> WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT UNDER THAT TREATY??
--> What did VICE PRESIDENT Joe Biden do? He withheld that aid... until Ukraine fired their prosecutor... so Biden wouldn't be convicted of Russian Collusion. Quid Pro Quo... to evade a noose... because ONLY the President, ONLY with the advice and consent of at least 2/3 of the SENATE (NOT Speaker Pelosi) ... may make, change, or negotiate, renegotiate any terms of ANY TREATY. What Biden did was High Treason... that could have resulted in War. He is supposed to have been stripped of his U.S. Citizenship and banned for life on pain of death... but he is President NOW... so all that Treason is exonerated?
READ THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ... THE GRIEVANCES LISTED APPLY AGAIN ... AS DICTATED ON WE THE PEOPLE ... BY OUR SERVANTS! >(
--> UNEQUAL TAXATION ... Wealthy don't pay... the poor pay.
--> DICTATED PONZI SCHEMES! The only difference between King George III's Tea Tax... and ACA... product, date, ruler dictating the tax... can't or don't pay the tax? YOU DIE ... BY LAW... NO CARE FOR YOU.
--> FOREIGN CITIZENS BROUGHT HERE TO EAT OUT OUR SUBSTANCE... WHO CAN NOT BE CITIIZENS... AND/OR ARE OUR ENEMIES!!!!!
--> THEY DENY U.S. OUR LAWS, GOOD AND WHOLESOME FOR U.S. ... TO DICTATE LAWS THAT TRADE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES, TO TAKE OUR PROSPERITY AND IMPOVERISH U.S. FOR THE ... LEGISLATED ... COMFORT OF THE DICTATOR RULERS OF PLANET EARTH!!!
Keep reading that document... SEE OUR OPPRESSORS REVEALED!!!
Do please... start using your own brains to decide the future of you, your posterity, and this Nation...
NOT the brains of the brainwashers who demand that you believe your Government has the legitimate right to DICTATE your Lives, Livelihoods, and Death... by THEIR Law... that throws OUR Law into the trash >(
THEY DO NOT!!!
Too late to try to Vote them out... the Vote is rigged.
ONLY way to cure this ill is to remove them bodily from their offices... try them for their overt treason... --> their signatures, that take from U.S., to DICTATE aid our Enemies ... AGAINST OUR WILL...
--> AND HOLD ELECTIONS TO REPLACE THEM ... WITH U.S. CITZENS WILLING TO OBEY THEIR OATHS OF LOYALTY TO U.S. AND OUR CONSTITUTION!
or... you can get on your knees...to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands... to join the traitors... in hopes the enemy will let you live.
--> I wouldn't count on oppressors to allow free people to live...on this jewel of the planet... when they have permission from our traitors to take it as they wish.
I wear black from this day forward... in mourning for freedom lost...
My Flag is at half mast, until the enemy burns it as I die, in memory of all those who died ... in vain ... for freedom for idiots who PREFER TO BE SLAVES to their rulers.
Where are the people with the hearts of the Founding Fathers... willing to stand against tyrants ... FOR FREEDOM?
One shot fired, by Gestapo.. at the Capitol on Jan 6 ... four U.S. Citizens dead ... and all is lost?
sad.
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I found a diesel fuel tank with a capacity of 10,000 bbls (420,000 USG) which on paper had close to 7 million USG in it. We had to have only US Military sign for the fuel deliveries and only US Military gauge the tanks daily. Too many people were just glancing at the forms not reading them and it went on for years. This occurred at a PACAF base in the late 60s. Base is now shuttered.
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