Posted on Feb 16, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.

What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?

Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?

How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
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CPT Dennis Stevenson
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Unless you're a military law expert, I'd go to the JAG office. That's their job.
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CPT Dennis Stevenson
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Unless you're a military law expert, I'd talk with JAG first. That's their job.
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PO3 Alphonso Everett
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I would. Simply put, a company shouldn't have to pay for another's malfeasance. Morally the supervisor could have a good explanation; however, ethically you have one, a duty to report. In the Navy, morally, I may not have agree with some of the Chief's I served under; however, ethically (Blue Jackets Manual) I obeyed. I also did this out of the respect of the ranking and experience as well.

Just my thoughts
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LTC Philip Marlowe
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When I was a Captain (03) Provost Marshal in a US MILCOM in Germany, 1989, I had an issue with my MILCOM Commander (06). I personally observed he was conducting himself right on the line between inappropriate and illegal. Some of my peers and a young CID agent (W2) had recently come into my office and told me what they were seeing as well. As his 'Chief of Military Police', I took it upon myself to be pretty candid with him. I informed him that some of the 'things' he was doing was inappropriate and borderline illegal and that members of the community (Officers & NCOs) were 'taking notice' and that rumors were running amok. I couldn't state what he was doing was illegal because it fell under what I now call "a Tom Cruise" moment - that being 'it doesn't matter what I know, it only matters what I can prove" and after having spoken with my SJA colleague, I knew I didn't have any 'legal basis'. Nonetheless, out of loyalty to my him as my Commander, and prior to me knowing any official investigations were being conducted, I asked him to consider what he was doing and to stop. Unfortunately, he didn't and, working with the WO2 CID agent, we initiated and conducted a formal investigation resulting in the COL being charged with misuse of a government vehicle and co-habitation with an individual not his spouse. He retired - quickly. I stand by what I did simply because as the Provost Marshal, I thought it my job to 'advise the Commander' when I saw him conducting himself in a way which appeared inappropriate and for which I had no evidence. However, when he failed to reconsider my advice and change his conduct, it became my responsibility, and in cooperation with CID, initiated an investigation. It certainly was NOT an easy decision to make, but I think to this day, my actions were correct.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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Thanks for the testimonial LTC Philip Marlowe
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MSgt Esteban Guitierrez
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The MSgt in charge of the legal office at Minot AFB was sending pornography over government email to amuse her girlfriends. I passed this on to the SJA. He compelled the rest of the office to fill out climate surveys for about four months, which resulted in our spending a day at MEO, learning the colors of our personalities and planning one another's dream vacations. And after that fiasco, she went right back to sending porn over government email. That's when official records started being altered and disappearing.
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SPC Charlie Nava
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SMSgt Paralegal
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I was a paralegal while in the Air National Guard and still am a paralegal for the DOJ-US Attorney's Office for SDOH and can say - it is your duty to report the fraud. That being said - you should make sure that you are safe when you report it - if you are in the AOR and reporting it will put your life in more harm than it already is - wait until you are home or find a way to report it outside of your chain of command. DOD fraud is a multi-million dollar theft of government money. It requires all of us to step up and do the right thing.
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PO1 Robbie Bell
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In 1998, I was a reservist Seabee. I had 28 day Individual Duty orders with a rental car authorization to 29 Palms for a joint exercise. The day after my arrival a reserve Senior Chief Petty Officer who will remain unnamed showed up as the OIC. He also had IDT orders with rental car authorization and brought along 4 other reservists from his command.
After a ridiculous power struggle with the host command, a hospital unit, the Senior Chief angrily sabotaged the power generator that was supplying the electricity to run the hospital tents. Including their Air Conditioning. The active duty Electrician got it fixed after several hours of work and the Senior Chief decided he was going to leave 4 days earlier than stated on his orders. He falsely endorsed his and all the subordinate's orders with the date they were supposed to depart and attempted to take my rental car from me so they could ride back to the San Diego airport more comfortably (I had an SUV, he had a sedan). I refused to give up my car despite his threats to write me up for disobeying a direct order and they left in the dark of night. The next morning, the commander of the hospital unit came to the Bee Hive, looking for the Senior Chief. I told him exactly where he was and what he forced his subordinates to do.
About a week after my return home, Naval Investigative Service called me, inquiring about the incident and I told them what I knew. I had contact with some of his subordinates the next year and was told he was given a BCD and reduced in rank to E-6. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I still can't figure out how a guy like that makes E-8!!
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MSgt Allen Chandler
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I’ve been out A long time but I think the rules are still the same if someone’s a crook there’s a procedure for reporting them. Now there’s different levels of crime. I don’t think I can train somebody in for stealing Ink pins. It’s a real crime and I have seen them you should go to the office of Special special investigation. Professional transponders that they’re professional and very discreet. We could get to the point where they have to reveal your name and you might need to testify against somebody but that’s part of the job.
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CWO4 Tim Hecht
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Revisiting the issue; one of my signature lines on a forum I belong to is: "Integrity is doing what you say you are going to do..." Another easy definition of Integrity is: "Do the right thing!"

Part of the reason this country is in the mess it is because people have sold their integrity out.
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