Posted on Dec 13, 2013
If you had a choice, which uniform pattern/style would you want to wear?
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If you had a choice, which uniform pattern/style would you want to wear?<div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgb(44, 44, 44); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">This year, the Joint Staff’s top enlisted adviser, Marine Sgt. Maj. Bryan Battaglia, said the mix of uniforms makes the U.S. military look like a “Baskin-Robbins” and signaled his support for a common uniform.<br></span><br><span style="color: rgb(44, 44, 44); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">But Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos recently said preserving the Corps’ MARPAT pattern is a top priority and declared that his service will stick to it “like a hobo to a ham sandwich.”</span><br></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(77, 77, 77); font-size: 12px;">Multicam, please.</span>
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I understand the desire for the services to be uniform; I mean that’s the whole point of a uniform in the first place. But to set one common camo uniform seems a bit asinine. I mean, what’s the point really? The old woodland BDU made sense as a common uniform for the Army and Marines because most of the training we did was in woodland environments. But then you get deployed somewhere, and if it is not in a woodland area, and you might actually NEED camo, then you’re going to be wearing something else. (Chocolate chips in desert storm, DCU in Iraq and Afghan, etc).
So although I understand the desire, the fact is a common camo uniform doesn't make much sense. Maybe instead of defining uniforms by service, we could have a common utility uniform and then regional tactical uniforms for training/deployment. This to me would make more sense. A simple OD, Navy Blue, black or whatever utility/cover all/ whatever you want uniform for day to day duty and non-combat deployed folk, and then battle dress defined by region for when/who needed.
You will never be wearing the same stuff in Kawait as Korea, so why bother defining a common cammo pattern for everyone everywhere to begin with?
So although I understand the desire, the fact is a common camo uniform doesn't make much sense. Maybe instead of defining uniforms by service, we could have a common utility uniform and then regional tactical uniforms for training/deployment. This to me would make more sense. A simple OD, Navy Blue, black or whatever utility/cover all/ whatever you want uniform for day to day duty and non-combat deployed folk, and then battle dress defined by region for when/who needed.
You will never be wearing the same stuff in Kawait as Korea, so why bother defining a common cammo pattern for everyone everywhere to begin with?
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Have Supply keep uniforms for those that are deploying that are only for deployment. Everyone should have a common one here.
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CMC Robert Young
I think you're on to what should be the key question/point; does it work for the environment where we deploy? If it does, then everybody in that environment should be wearing the same thing.
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The Coast Guard over the last ten years has toyed with its utility uniform for strictly CG missions but whenever we deploy with our sister services, we simply adopt whatever they wear for the duration. To me, it would make more sense if there was one (don't care what) uniform for all services with the primary influencing factor being it's functionality in the environment. That might mean having one uniform for green
environments; another for brown ones; another for urban areas....but certainly a common uniform for everybody based on application, not on service.
Think about the savings, and the simplicity for identifying friend from foe. I read an article recently about a multi agency police shooting. One of the issues that came up during the debrief was that the agencies involved all had different uniforms and it caused some confusion about who was law enforcement, who was EMS, who was a bus driver just caught in the line of fire....something to consider.
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I cant agree with this more. I single unit for different environments and go back to the old BDU era, want difference, change the cap. It worked back then, it can work again. Just dont bring back the black boots, hated the boots......
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Master Chief I absolutely agree. The amount of money we spend on trying different uniforms every few years is crazy. Additionally, the joint operations we are now engaged in call for the same uniform--thus the definition of uniform.
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SSG Maurice P.
BACK IN THE DAY SATEEN OLIVE DRAB UTILITIES STARCHED WITH STARCHED COVER...............AN AWESOME MARINE CORPS UNIFORM.
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As someone who has done allot of crawling around in various environments trying not to be seen…..Multi-cam is the best all round choice!
The Mar-pat is pretty good pattern or even going back to BDU/DCU would be better than ACUs.
The Sec of Def. and or CoJCS needs to end this squabble and make a decision! Lets quit wasting money, pick a decent pattern and issue it.
Multi-cam is in the system….I would just go ahead and run with that.
On the issue of gear, plate carriers, etc. Go with brown gear and buy a bunch of spray paint for where ever you deploy. Going to the jungle, hit it with some light green and dark green. Back to a desert, brown and tan.
If a broken down SFC can figure this crap out, then the leaders in the puzzle palace should have figured this out years ago.
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I agree with Sgt. Maj. Bryan Battaglia, we look disjointed and sloppy when we roll up somewhere in 31 different flavors of uniforms. Not only will 1 uniform save the DoD money, it will make us look like a unified fighting force, whether we're fighting or not.
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I say go with Multi-cam, it works well in woodland or desert surroundings. The ACU pattern is the WORST thing that the Army has ever come up with and is a representation of everything wrong with the Army. I look forward to the day when I can put on a more sensible looking uniform and burn this digital abomination we have been walking around in for the last 8 years.
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I would say go to the groups that use the gear regularly and talk to them. Instead of using the ideas of guys and gals that sit in an office all day. Hit the spec-ops or the guys on the ground to get the best feed back. They will give you an honest assement of what's going to best suit the need.
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