Posted on Nov 12, 2014
If you knew someone who needed help, or you needed the help, would you use/recommend this community?
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And you heard about a transition community that would provide up to 1 year of:
PTS(D)/depression counseling
Physical Therapy
Help filing for veteran/public assistance programs (medical/education/housing)
Job Training/Job Placement
A "tiny house" for 1
Community center with a Veterans Aid "clearing house"
Internet connectivity for online courses
support group meetings for AA/NA/other
Transportation to appointments/interviews/classes etc, not on site
All within walking distance...
In exchange they had to:
Stay clean and sober
Participate in PTS(D)/depression study for veterans (independent of the VA)
Put in 1-2 hours a day in "chores" for facility support
Do 4 hours a week community volunteer work in the larger community
Work with counselors and legal, actively and honestly, to resolve personal issues
Pay "rent" from public assistance for facility operation costs
In a community of up to 200 fellow disadvantaged veterans and volunteers...
Would you use it? Would you recommend it? Would you support it?
Do you have any suggestions?
PTS(D)/depression counseling
Physical Therapy
Help filing for veteran/public assistance programs (medical/education/housing)
Job Training/Job Placement
A "tiny house" for 1
Community center with a Veterans Aid "clearing house"
Internet connectivity for online courses
support group meetings for AA/NA/other
Transportation to appointments/interviews/classes etc, not on site
All within walking distance...
In exchange they had to:
Stay clean and sober
Participate in PTS(D)/depression study for veterans (independent of the VA)
Put in 1-2 hours a day in "chores" for facility support
Do 4 hours a week community volunteer work in the larger community
Work with counselors and legal, actively and honestly, to resolve personal issues
Pay "rent" from public assistance for facility operation costs
In a community of up to 200 fellow disadvantaged veterans and volunteers...
Would you use it? Would you recommend it? Would you support it?
Do you have any suggestions?
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Posted 11 y ago
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I'd support it and recommend it if I knew someone who needed it.
My only questions based on the info given are with regard to 'public assistance'. Where is that coming from? What types of public assistance do you anticipate? Is the 'rent' scalable based on the amount of public assistance and the Vet's ability to pay? (i.e..if the vet had family to support or debt, etc.)
My only questions based on the info given are with regard to 'public assistance'. Where is that coming from? What types of public assistance do you anticipate? Is the 'rent' scalable based on the amount of public assistance and the Vet's ability to pay? (i.e..if the vet had family to support or debt, etc.)
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CW2 Joseph Evans
Good questions.
VA housing program for homeless vets, Welfare, determining if a VA medical disability claim needs to be filed, SSI, help filing the paperwork...
Rent is scalable. the program would help them to generate a positive revenue flow, so anything beyond the rent should be more than they were bringing in (paying out) before they joined the program. The plan is to get them financially stable.
Thank you for those questions.
VA housing program for homeless vets, Welfare, determining if a VA medical disability claim needs to be filed, SSI, help filing the paperwork...
Rent is scalable. the program would help them to generate a positive revenue flow, so anything beyond the rent should be more than they were bringing in (paying out) before they joined the program. The plan is to get them financially stable.
Thank you for those questions.
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SGT Richard H.
CW2 Joseph Evans I would love to see this get off the ground. The overall concept sounds somewhat like it's modeled after "Job Corps", or at least my very limited knowledge of it. Job Corps in and of itself has been a successful and useful concept for a long time, so building from that model with added features designed around Vets should be a very workable and helpful addition to the community.
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That approach sounds like a good option for many who could benefit from the program. Your survey only permits one selection yet I would have checked multiple answers. That said, I would be interested to see the program outline to examine if there is the ability to duplicate the model in other venues.
I believe you've mentioned this on at least one other thread so I may have missed something along the way. If that's the case you have my apology for the oversight.
I believe you've mentioned this on at least one other thread so I may have missed something along the way. If that's the case you have my apology for the oversight.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
I'm really pushing this as a "proof of concept". If I can build a successful program, it will be scalable and reproducible. With nearly 1.5 million veterans living in poverty, and 60 thousand on the street, there will be no shortage of eligible candidates for the program.
And I am looking for people to poke holes in the idea now, rather than have to deal with them once money and resources are committed.
And I am looking for people to poke holes in the idea now, rather than have to deal with them once money and resources are committed.
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All of the above for need and plus therapy and getting a home... I reference you a lot.
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Great.... Completely forgot the "Hell no to any of it because it will never work option."
That's what you get when you design your own market survey for your own idea...
I'm just so in love with the idea, I can't think of anyone not liking the it.
That's what you get when you design your own market survey for your own idea...
I'm just so in love with the idea, I can't think of anyone not liking the it.
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I wouldn't want to be in a community that is labeled "a community of up to 200 disadvantaged veterans." That is poor marketing. There are much better ways to word that, but I get paid to do things like that so you gotta work on it yourself. ;-)
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CW2 Joseph Evans
Economically upward challenged? Recovering? I got a marketing problem, I can't use the same words for my clients (Veterans) and my benefactors (community). You don't get money using phrases like "momentarily motivationally challenged" or "temporarily impoverished millionaire", you get it by calling it what it is, "homeless", "unemployed", "underemployed", "wounded", "damaged".
The community is about recovery, rehabilitation, creating social mobility in a group of veterans that are experiencing similar difficulties in their lives.
Enough equivocating. Yes, it's an issue. I know it. Still working through a number of issues.
The community is about recovery, rehabilitation, creating social mobility in a group of veterans that are experiencing similar difficulties in their lives.
Enough equivocating. Yes, it's an issue. I know it. Still working through a number of issues.
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I've chosen "recommend it" because there isn't another option that I deem suitable for my specific preference and need.
I've battled demons, and I've come out a better man, I feel. Therefore I don't need to use a service like you mention. However, knowing what I know and having been where I have been, I'd certainly recommend it and support it, both through monetary contributions and volunteerism.
I've battled demons, and I've come out a better man, I feel. Therefore I don't need to use a service like you mention. However, knowing what I know and having been where I have been, I'd certainly recommend it and support it, both through monetary contributions and volunteerism.
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If I needed it I would use it. I would recommend it if I knew somebody needed it. I would support it because I believe in the concept.
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I do like the tiny house idea though. Most other programs have some sort of berthing area setup much like boot camp and there is no privacy.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
Isn't that the truth.
And how many other programs like this are you familiar with? I'm having trouble finding comparable models.
And how many other programs like this are you familiar with? I'm having trouble finding comparable models.
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PO2 (Join to see)
Not many as comprehensive as yours. This is the major program we have in our big city: http://www.mcvet.org/
The rest of them are only housing related programs that get the SSVF grant.
United Way might be a good place to look as well.
The rest of them are only housing related programs that get the SSVF grant.
United Way might be a good place to look as well.
MCVET.ORG - Maryland Center for Veterans Education & Training
The Maryland Center for Veterans Education and Training is a nonprofit organization that treats veterans with homelessness and substance abuse, located in Baltimore, Maryland.
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The problem I've seen with these programs is location. They are great ideas, but depending on location there are some concerns. If it is in a small or medium urban setting, your neighbors will likely resist having it built there, and if it is rural, transportation and employment become bigger factors.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
Location, location, location. Seems to be a critical piece for just about anything.
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PO2 (Join to see)
Absolutely. Its my bread and butter to work with organizations like this and my territory is a small city surrounded by rural areas. I have a shelter here that is out in the sticks and getting the guys into town to search for jobs or to see me here in my office is difficult. They had internet access, but they tell me that the privilege is revoked when someone abuses it (porn) and there is only one computer. Makes me wonder about the "transition" that these guys are supposed to be getting.
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I wouldn't like that, it seems to derogatory and demeaning to someone who served. I pay my rent and helped myself now I almost have my Associates of drafting and Design... This idea feels too much like community service and the non-military related PTSD thing seems like a bit of a stretch in terms of trust...
Nope, wouldn't support or use it, would instead hope that the veterans would be clean sober and get their careers going on their own, just like I did...
Nope, wouldn't support or use it, would instead hope that the veterans would be clean sober and get their careers going on their own, just like I did...
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SPC Kel Rowland
Although I know that the structure and help of having a community having your back would be a welcomed thing... Some people might need a village still, but I am not a child anymore so I can handle college and life on my own, I wouldn't need it but some people would love it... Maybe they should make it a thing
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