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SFC Clinic Ncoic
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SSG George Holtje
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Me? No. Higher than me? Yes. Many times. I argued until they put me at Parade Rest. Then the PA chewed me out when I took them to the Aid Station. Then I dimed out those who made me make the soldier do the APFT.
I’ve also been that soldier.
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SSG Brian G.
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No. You cannot. If you know your SM has a fever or is sick then you are negligent if you make them take the APFT. It states it clearly in the manual on taking an APFT if they are sick they are not to take it.
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SFC Clinic Ncoic
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That is my thought process. We as NCO's should be making those calls and looking out for our soldiers. If they are still within regulation, why make them take an apft and take a chance of them failing when they never have before.
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SGM Bill Frazer
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A fever, probably not, coughing, hacking, chills, fever- all signs of a troop in trouble- send on sick call immediately. Its called caring for your people, study it!
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Thank you for your response SGM.
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If you know your soldier has a fever, do you still make him take a PT test? Even when soldier still has one on record last 6 months?
LtCol Robert Quinter
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You aren't going to have an accurate measure of his fitness if the serviceman is sick. That is the reason for the test isn't it?
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Yeah, send to the medic...then prob home, don't wanna make everyone sick.
No PT for them, you want them to recover, not get worse.
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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If you “know” for a fact then no. Regulation says no where that you have to take an APFT every 6 months. It is a good rule to follow but not regulatory. Regulation states (unless it changed since I retired about a year ago) that a Soldier must take 2 record APFT per calendar year.

Boards and retention (for example) etc. have different standards for how old an APFT can be.
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SFC Clinic Ncoic
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That is still correct 1SG. Thank you.
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If I know for a fact the SM has a fever and hacking up lung s and other colored fluid....no APFT for that SM. But, that's just me.
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SFC Clinic Ncoic
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Thank you for your response. My thoughts as well.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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We had our own medics organic to the unit and at least one on site for APFT so when that sort of question would come up we'd have them triage the Soldier on the spot and send them to the Battalion PA. Cut down on malingerers and kept actual sick troops from getting hosed. I could see this being hard for a unit without organic medics.

If the Soldiers test was still within tolerance why take a chance of them failing or doing poorly. We conducted a record test every month to sweep up folks that were coming off profile recovery periods, those who may have PCS'd in with outdated APFT, or those who had failed and had become eligible for retest.
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SFC Clinic Ncoic
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That is what we do here as well. Monthly apfts just in case. That is the purpose of the question. If they're in tolerance, why risk them doing poorly.
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I'd have the Soldier go on sick call. Let the Soldier get a profile excusing them, rather than taking it upon yourself and not having coverage for the Soldier, or yourself.
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CPL Gary Pifer
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Yeah and maybe you new name will be SGT.
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