Posted on Sep 7, 2016
If you saw one of your Joes doing this, how would you react?
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I went to basic with this SM and saw on his Facebook that he went to Prom in his ACU's. How would you go about mentoring one of your subordinates that are in violation of AR670-1?
AR670-1 Chapter 4 Section 3 Line 2... That's what I found in the reg, please attach anything else you find
**EDIT** This is not a Dance, but it is some Formal assembly and to the best of my knowledge he is not on Duty.. Class A's would of been appropriate (as long as it's in regs, which I'm sure isn't hard since he would only have 1 ribbon)
AR670-1 Chapter 4 Section 3 Line 2... That's what I found in the reg, please attach anything else you find
**EDIT** This is not a Dance, but it is some Formal assembly and to the best of my knowledge he is not on Duty.. Class A's would of been appropriate (as long as it's in regs, which I'm sure isn't hard since he would only have 1 ribbon)
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When FMF it was very simple, your cammies were pretty much for wear on duty. You didn't wear them off base, you didn't wear them out to eat in town even for lunch, and you wore them only off base when heading home. No exceptions except to stop for gas. It really kept any confusion down. You wanted to appear in public it was bless whites, dress blues, working white, or working blues. That was it, no exceptions to the rule. If you violated it, trust me someone would set you strait right on the spot. I was okay with it and it kept us on the strait and narrow.
When I joined the SCANG it was different and I never really bothered to learn the AR on it. I just went by the old FMF SOP I was used to. It kept me from making the any mistakes....I may have gotten in hot water, but never for anything like this.
When I joined the SCANG it was different and I never really bothered to learn the AR on it. I just went by the old FMF SOP I was used to. It kept me from making the any mistakes....I may have gotten in hot water, but never for anything like this.
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Honestly people get over yourselves. Constantly seeking attention for your service is childish
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It's not a formal uniform. It's a combat uniform. However, it is not against the regulations to wear, so long as the soldier isn't drinking alcohol. It's not uncommon to see National Guardsmen and Reservists in full uniform, especially in a small town...
It states in AR-670-1 "The ACU is not normally considered appropriate for social or official functions, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, etc. The ACU is issued as a combat uniform and is not intended for wear as an all-purpose uniform, when other uniforms are (Class A or B, dress, and mess) are more appropriate."
It states in AR-670-1 "The ACU is not normally considered appropriate for social or official functions, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, etc. The ACU is issued as a combat uniform and is not intended for wear as an all-purpose uniform, when other uniforms are (Class A or B, dress, and mess) are more appropriate."
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First of all Soldiers like to brag. As his leadership I would have mentored him about what is considered appropriate wear for a formal event as well as informing him of what AR and DA PAM 670-1 say. Then seeing the pic afterwards would have been a formal counseling for failing to follow an order and a regulation (AR 670-1 is now punitive). Some very creative retraining would be in order.
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It looks more like a sports event to me, because cheerleaders don't wear those outfits to prom. Do they? As a Marine, the cammies were a no go, off base if you were off duty.
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I didn't notice he was in what we used to call fatigues which aren't technically supposed to be worn off duty it's been a long time so I forgot it would've been really frowned on and could've brought a disciplinary action in my day
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He could be ROTC you just cant tell from the pic. But if not I would tell him take the pic down before the chief sees it and you get your ass handed to you.
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I would need more information to decide what is correct action to take. Maybe this was a personal copy of the person who did it. If in fact is property of someone else, then destroying it is wrong and be dealt with. What everyone fails to see, maybe I missed that comment, is that this defacement, is a personal attack in the making. This group of people may have done something, that the individual who did this views as wronged him/her in some way. Stop jumping to conclusions. Maybe he/she is being bullied and your negative uninformed comments aren't going to help. We are a team!! Start acting like it!!
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