Posted on Nov 17, 2013
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What does everyone think about all of the SPCs and SGTs on here with (P) after their rank? I won't quote AR 25-50, I just want your thoughts.
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SSG Small Group Leader
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It's not just confined to SPC and SGT's. I've seen LT (P), SFC (P) etc.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
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I must be missing something. I've never come across an added "P".
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SSG(P) Transportation Management Coordinator
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Personnel should not use the (P) identification unless they are on the list for consideration for promotion to a higher grade. Those that are actually permitted to use the (P) identification are SSG thru MSG and 2LT thru LTG. Even then, it still should not used unless it promotes the service.
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SSG(P) (Join to see) you forgot CW2 through CW4. Also, someone could be a currently serving 1SG, and be selected for promotion to SGM or CSM....

And I'd say it should not be used IN OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE unless it promotes the service. RallyPoint is not official correspondence.
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SSG(P) Transportation Management Coordinator
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Gentlemen, I just abide by the regulations and enforce them. I don't get to pick and choose what I feel does or does not apply.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I guess I don't have to worry about that too much since I was only (P) for a few weeks.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I don't do it.  You will know I am promotable through my actions and words.
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SFC Prime Power Supervisor
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This comment was not intended to correct anyone. I just learned that the site puts the status there automatically, based on user info. With that being said, I would like everyone to know that I am really a CSM(P).
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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No, the site puts the status there if the USER specifically designates him/herself as Promotable, hence the (P).  If you are saying the site automatically assigns (P) status without a user selecting it, then why isn't every single user showing a (P) status? ;-)
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SFC Prime Power Supervisor
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Sir, as I said it is automatically generated based off of user info. Another words if a user puts that he is promotable in his information, the site puts the (P) there.

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CW3 Network Architect
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It's a checkbox. You're both right. You're both pretty, too.
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SFC Prime Power Supervisor
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BLUF: The Army uses the (P) to distinguish your promotion status from another's. There are some positions, schools and duties, that can only be held at certain ranks. In some cases these things can be accomplished by someone one grade lower, as long as they are promotable. Many times duty rosters and other documents will include a soldier's status, in order to meet the requirments. In my opinion, and I believe the regulations backs me up, it should not be used on Rally Point, as it serves no useful purpose.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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SFC Land, thanks for your point.  I would argue that it does serve a point, as it adds context and clarity quickly to a member's profile.  For example, if I see a CPT(P) then I immediately know he/she is a very senior CPT -- which could mean a difference of 5+ years of service and tons of knowledge/experience.
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SFC Prime Power Supervisor
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It may add context to a CPT, but seeing a SGT(P) tells me nothing. He could have been a SGT for two years or seven. I was unaware that the site put the status on the rank. Makes for good discussion though.
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If you see a CW2(P) here on RallyPoint, it tells you that they've been a CW2 for at LEAST four years, and if USAR rather than active duty, at LEAST five years. I'd say that's a useful purpose, just as in the example posted by CPT Aaron Kletzing
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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Gentlemen, thanks for addressing this issue.  Please help by clarifying this question: are certain Army ranks not supposed to be able to have (P) after them?  Or, is the entire Army not supposed to use this anymore?  I have always seen officers using this, so I assumed that this carried over to all pay grades.  Is this not accurate?  Thanks for your help.
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SFC Prime Power Supervisor
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According to AR 25-50, Only Colonels can use it in there signature block. For anyone else, it is strictly used for something that benefits the Army i.e. duty rosters ect.
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SSG Robert Burns
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There is a SGM on here with a (P). That makes no sense.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
CPT Aaron Kletzing
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SSG Burns -- who is the SGM(P) individual?  I can't find him/her.  Please send it to me via PM if this actually exists, since it would be really unusual to actually exist (if ever).  Thanks.
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