Posted on Apr 29, 2021
In the Army, can a person be forced into another MOS without being presented options?
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My sister is currently at EOD school, though fractured her ankle, and is being told she will be sent instead to cook school. Her impression is that she is eligible to be given three different options based on her ASVAB/GT scores. Is she mistaken, or is she eligible to consider different alternatives?
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It's called a Mandatory Reclass. She was given the benefit of training when she enlisted as EOD. EOD actually has about a 2/3rd attrition rate. If there are other MOS training seats available on short notice an IET Soldier who is dropped may sometimes be offered several options. Nothing is guaranteed and anyone who says they are entitled to any choices are just reciting urban legend
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SPC Nancy Greene
PO1 Austin Hubbard not necessarily. I was a 75C (Personnel Management Specialist) and I broke my pelvic bone in two places in Basic. It wasn’t properly diagnosed until I graduated AIT. I stayed in my MOS with a P3 profile. I was still physically capable of performing in my MOS, so I wasn’t reclassified, although I was offered a medical discharge and I turned it down. PO1 Austin Hubbard
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PO1 Austin Hubbard she's still an IET Soldier. Unfortunately this is what happens to Soldiers who join high attrition programs like EOD, 18X, and Option 40.
Injuries don't necessarily fall under mandatory reclass, but IET Soldiers who are med drops and can't be held over long enough to heal will have to get a new MOS. She can always go back to EOD after a year at her first duty station
Injuries don't necessarily fall under mandatory reclass, but IET Soldiers who are med drops and can't be held over long enough to heal will have to get a new MOS. She can always go back to EOD after a year at her first duty station
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PO1 Austin Hubbard
SFC (Join to see) and SPC Nancy Greene , really appreciative for your knowledge and support!
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CPT Daniel Cox
SPC Nancy Greene - Warning... off topic response.
Times have changed since I was in the Army (when dinosaurs roamed the squad bays). At that time, a P3 profile required a mandatory Medical Board which did not allow you to "turn down" an offer of a medical discharge. We were in the time right before Desert Storm and the Army was downsizing in significant numbers, not trying to keep every warm body they could.
I was given P3 Upper Extremities (destroyed shoulder, fractured neck, and fracture and removal of radial head) and a P3 Lower Extremites (fractured back and dropped arches). I was discharged with a 10% rating (I did the research and was expecting 60% since I had four or five major injury areas) after four plus years enlisted and eight plus years commissioned service. I lost my initial appeal and could not find an attorney that would take my case before the appeal process closed. The VA gave me an initial rating of 120% down to 70% with VA Math. I am now at 160%, down to 80%, but paid at 100% because I have been unemployable since 2002.
Times have changed since I was in the Army (when dinosaurs roamed the squad bays). At that time, a P3 profile required a mandatory Medical Board which did not allow you to "turn down" an offer of a medical discharge. We were in the time right before Desert Storm and the Army was downsizing in significant numbers, not trying to keep every warm body they could.
I was given P3 Upper Extremities (destroyed shoulder, fractured neck, and fracture and removal of radial head) and a P3 Lower Extremites (fractured back and dropped arches). I was discharged with a 10% rating (I did the research and was expecting 60% since I had four or five major injury areas) after four plus years enlisted and eight plus years commissioned service. I lost my initial appeal and could not find an attorney that would take my case before the appeal process closed. The VA gave me an initial rating of 120% down to 70% with VA Math. I am now at 160%, down to 80%, but paid at 100% because I have been unemployable since 2002.
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Needs of the service. It's unfortunate, but that happens. I chose to be a cook, and it was a good choice for me. Advancements and promotions are fairly rapid for 92G if she pounds out civilian education and does her job well. I always tell people to have a positive attitude in spite of circumstances because if a person learns to do that well when times are easy, when the enemy throws the suck at us, a positive attitude is a game changer.
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When you fail AIT, your next assignment is wherever the Army wants you to go.
That's why the Army so casually allows people to enlist for EOD, SF, etc...
Because they know statistically you will fail, and then they have a body they can plug anywhere.
That's why the Army so casually allows people to enlist for EOD, SF, etc...
Because they know statistically you will fail, and then they have a body they can plug anywhere.
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If you sign for an MOS and can’t complete that training pipeline they can reclass as needs of the military present themselves.
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Somewhere in her contract I’m sure it says that if she is unable to complete her training she will “be reassigned in accordance with the needs of the United States Army,” or words to that effect. Sometimes soldiers in this situation are offered alternatives, but not always. Full disclosure: I retired from the US Army in 1989 as a MSG personnel NCO. But...some things never change. In the end it’s always about the “Big Green Machine.”
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Yes, unfortunately the needs of the Army to achieve its missions might require military personnel to change to another MOS.
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She is mistaken. If you get kicked from your contracted MOS you get reclassed on needs of the Army. Sometimes there's choices and sometimes not. When I was in IET Cook or 88M is what most people got tossed to. Sucks but that's the risk you take when you go for something like EOD with a high failure rate. If she's really desperate to not be a cook(wouldn't blame her!) she might be able to take it up with her command but odds are good the decision was already made based on school openings.
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I always thought high attrition rate enlistment were a shady thing the Navy did (Other than 11X where you still end up Infantry) but I haven't joined the army since the 1990s.
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SPC Cathy Goessman
It's only certain MOSs. EOD, Diver, Special Forces candidate, certain highly technical MOS, etc. Mainly the ones that have extra physical requirements or very high level academic requirements.
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I find it hard to believe they would send an EOD recycle with a TS clearance to Food Services.
When I was a Intel Analyst my class had three EOD recycles in it for 35F.
The cadre are probably playing mind games with her. I'd like to think the Army is going to try and recover it's investment on the TS clearance.
When I was a Intel Analyst my class had three EOD recycles in it for 35F.
The cadre are probably playing mind games with her. I'd like to think the Army is going to try and recover it's investment on the TS clearance.
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