Posted on Oct 21, 2015
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So the First Army Boss is stating that the Reserves, to include the National Guard, don't have enough time for training. I think the 39 days a years is not horrible. You really can never get enough training but I don't think that took some of our systems into consideration. If you look at a Armored Brigade Combat Team you have a lot of moving parts. Getting your soldiers from various Armories throughout the state and to then to get them to their vehicles so they can do a gunnery is extremely difficult. Gunneries are usually left to do at an Annual Training when you can have more time but then that takes a lot of resources and that is pretty much all that you will do.

Keep in mind that the First Army is viewing as a means to mobilize and deploy reserve forces quicker. They are focusing on their ability to deploy in a short time frame.

What is your experience with this?
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39 days is not enough but the "Guard check" doesn't put the food on the table or a roof over the head (except for the few of us that are AGR). Adding more training days only puts more stress on civilian employment. If you add more training days, it not only takes more days from work (shorter check) and causes the employer to either be short an employee or hire another to cover the time the Guardsman is gone. Most companies support the Guard and Reserves, but remember, they are there to make money.
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COL President
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I actually studied this Q as a MAJ for a paper in CGSC! Short answer - my conclusion was that it can be if the unit itself is very, very good. The problem I saw was not lack of time for training, but too much of that precious time spent doing other things - mostly administration - and not doing those things very effectively... for example, using a basically a MUTA for the APFT, that kind of thing. USAR especially, have very similar reporting/admin reqm'ts as active duty, but only 1/10 the time to execute these requirements. So, the RC unit's admin burden as a % of time available is much higher than AC. Things that are done routinely on AC take much more time/effort in the RC, and eat into that valuable training time unless you are really on top of your planning and training schedule!
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No, but then again neither is 365 according to 350-1.
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SGT William Hardy
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Operational Reserve? Really have they not paid attention to what the Army Reserve and Army National Guard have done over the past 10 to 12 years?
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Capt Regional Assistant Oic
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NGAUS Company Group Officer Committee is making a presentation to CNGB and others in DC during our November visit on the impact and perception of adding additional training days to the reserve component.

If you are Air or Army National Guard, please take a few minutes to answer some questions so we can get a good sample of opinions to develop the discussion with decision makers.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WMWYH2B
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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Capt (Join to see) I recommend that you post this as its own thread, so that it gets the visibility it deserves.
No longer in the NG, but I would add that the ability to get paid for doing mandatory classes off-drill needs to 1) be increased to explicitly include ALL mandatory classes than are available online and 2) be much better advertised - most don't even know that the option exists, even after several years.
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COL Vincent Stoneking - thank you for your response sir, I completely agree that a lot of can be accomplished if we think outside the box training completion.

Will make it its own thread
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39 days would be fine if you actually trained is the career field that you chose instead of sitting behind a computer screen trying to complete computer based training that has nothing to do with our chosen career fields.
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You would get a lot more benefit from longer training periods and not one weekend a month. Imagine the shift in training attention you'd achieve with 2-3 active training periods every 3-4 months. Or one long period. Expecting a weekend to accomplish anything is unreasonable.
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Lootenant.
As soon as it gets dark and you hear all the weapons in your patrol go hot after the silent command from the PL goes out...and you stand up the to move....stop and ask yourself that question.
Ask any batt boy
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I am beyond lost as to what you are specking about and how it relates to the topic. Thanks MINOR Person.
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MAJ Thomas Person
MAJ Thomas Person
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wow. I guess you got me. Something in jest offends an infantryman? I'll live thru it I guess in this new age.
No!!! 39 days is not enough fuxc& stick. How FU'ed are you to ask a sorry assed leg question like that. 39 sqd and platoon live fires is more like "enough training". 39 days of training. RIGHT. I've seen NG/reserve training up close before you were born.
I thought I was being jocular with a fellow "professional". Relate to this?
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SPC Steven Nihipali
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Sir, when I was mobbing up for convoy security, it didn't usage much brains to vigour l figure out how to corral a bunch of supply trucks. Wyatt was needed was IED detection. I spent countless hours trying to learn the many ways IED's were being planted buy also the easy they were found.

My MOS, 42R02L, my training time was constant. If you don't use it, you lose it. In different jobs, the prep time is more and needed in days in advance. That's where proper planning comes in. I hated using AKO but if that's the Army reg still in communicating with soldiers, green so be it. But in today's tech world, there nd fit to be a better, much more efficient, way in communicating with your guys. I would send mass texts and individual texts and would call my guys two or three days out before we had anything come up. Having a packing list really helps, but also having your standard gear ready in a go bag. I day this because being a 42R, I never had to go without my Army issued gear. It's all secured in a box, my name on it, checked and stored a month before hand or whenever I could get into the training areas.
A for the amount of days, there is never enough time to train and keep big Army off your back. 2-3 day weekends is never enough. AT is, imo, a time to show your proficiency and actually mobilize your unit to perform as many missions as possible. I can honestly say that my job kept me plenty busy through out the year and along with AT
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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When I was with a 12B unit we did MUTA 5s a lot due to the fact two days wasn't enough time to get out to the training area, do the training and get back. What a lot of people don't realize is how much personal time is used on Reserve business. After I retired I was shocked at how much extra time I had for myself. When I became SNCO of my unit and doing 1SG work, I'd come in on Fridays because I needed the extra time to get prepared. Most of the time it was on my dime. Reserve force I believe was initially planned as just that - a reserve force. Who were trained enough to help plug a hole (cannon fodder) until enough trained troops could be sent. 39 days a year is not enough.
When in the 7th ARCOM in Europe, my Reserve unit needed to go to the field every time V Corps HQ went to the field because we were the V Corps Rear HQ G2/G3. Many times I was on V Corps FTX 3-4 times a year plus my regular 14 days AT. This was the only way we could keep up with the pace. It was tough for many of our unit members because they couldn't do as much, so we'd get volunteers from other units to help us.
I think if the Reserves(when I say Reserves I also include NG) were to go to more days a year many would have to make a choice between their job and military. There will always be those who are "tour babies" and live off of going from tour to tour, but the majority will always be "typical Reservists". We will never have enough training days and when the call goes out, we can only do the best we can do. What's going to be the determining factor is a unit's leadership. How well they know their unit, how well they keep the training days focused, how well they use the time they have. And how much personal time they commit over and above to the unit.
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I think some units do need more time. I have done a MUTA 5 and 6 from time to time and a 3 week AT. I think it helped but it was only for us due to be a MECH unit. I don't think this is needed for everyone.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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CPT (Join to see) - True. As a 12B unit we, as you also needed the extra field time. Mobility/counter-mobility can't be learned in the class room. It can be taught, but not fully learned.
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