Posted on Dec 2, 2016
CPT Chris Loomis
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SGM Erik Marquez
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I read this on my phone and assumed it was on duffelblog,, my bad.... it was an actual question.
The Unit chain of command is responsible for everything the unit they are in charge unit does or fails to accomplish. That would include processing and if applicable, approving a request for transfer.
You are in charge of you.. If you want a job at Bobs deli..go talk to Bob.
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Capt Tom Brown
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SGM Erik Marquez - Perhaps this question is a reflection of some in today's 'new Army' or 'new MC' that leadership involves and is expected to respond in some fashion to support, respond to, and meet the wants, needs, and desires of every Pvt and above. If this is so then we are all in for a rough time ahead.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Capt Tom Brown - Sir, If it is an expectation, then I agree...
If I read the post wrong and it is a request for help...then i mis
spoke...If the CofC was ASKED for assistance to contact a unit and see if there is an opening to be had, and this is only requested AFTER the SM has done their due diligence in working out that answer on thier own, then yes, the CofC should assist.
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The Chain of Command is better equipped to figure this out than a lone Soldier, though it can be done. I've seen places basically check out on a Soldier that doesn't want to stay in its ranks, and that's the wrong answer. It would go a long way if more units helped Soldiers with transfers and moves like this. Is the CoC directly obligated? No. But it does go to the welfare of the Soldier, so I'd always take that on.
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On the enlisted side the NCO can pull the Reqs in EDAS to see what is available. Is it required.... No. Though our job is to help the soldiers in the unit.
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Is an Army COC in any way obligated to assist a Soldier, who requests a transfer, in locating an open position at another unit?
SPC Erich Guenther
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If the unit your in is overstrength, then I would say YES and that has been the business practice of some Army National Guard unit leadership as well as assisting the younger troops that just arrived from AIT in selecting a MOS to reclass to. If they are not overstrength then I would say NO and your on your own. If the unit is changing it's makeup to a new MOS and your old MOS is becomming obsolete then again I would say NO and finding a new unit is your issue if you want to hold onto the old MOS. So it depends.

The only case I can think of which I would say YES is the ubiquitous case of the effed up National Guard Unit Manning Roster (UMR) and no fault of the troop they were accidently sent to the wrong AIT training.......which happened to my Nephew, BTW........and he had to reclass four months after graduating Infantry OSUT and had to repeat AIT for a new MOS. If it was me I would have been pissed but he handled it professionally. His Infantry unit CoC helped him with the MOS selection as well as unit transfer.
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CPT Chris Loomis
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HOOOAH!!! Thank You, SPC! Excellent insight and "influence up the chain!"
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1SG Al Brown
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The COC that requests would be obligated to provide a projected position line number, which results in travel orders, report date, etc. They wouldn't be able to request a Soldier without a viable position on the manning roster. The losing COC will facilitate the clearing and release. I'm not a admin person, but this is how individual augmentees are procured.
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CPT Chris Loomis
CPT Chris Loomis
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Q. What if the individual Soldier requests a transfer?? Are they responsible for locating a unit and the position line number?
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1SG Al Brown
1SG Al Brown
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It is all on the Soldier to work out. Which usually doesn't make friends at the losing unit or within the branch, because you may be stepping on both their toes.
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1SG Al Brown
1SG Al Brown
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You're right. I misunderstood who "they" were and adjusted the answer..
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CPT Chris Loomis - I have a similar case for relocating, I haven't received no help from my unit, they just want updates, I found a unit, after frequent persistence the UA gave me the 4651, just awaiting for the gaining commander signature, but then the gaining commander and the 1sg wanted a interview with me to see if they're willing to accept me. The problem with all this process is the time frame, sometimes is not as easy as the gaining unit saying, 'okay fine you're in', I've learned the hard way, 90 days might not be enough for all this back and forth. Its a case by case basis to consider when CoC wants to help you in or help you out.
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