Posted on May 16, 2016
SGT Edward Wilcox
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When I was in Germany in the early '80s, a fellow medic wrote on a form "Combat Medic" for his MOS. When our Platoon Sargent(a Vietnam veteran) saw that, he made the private change it, and told him that he has never seen combat, and therefore, is not a "Combat Medic". So, does one have to have seen actual combat to take the title Combat Medic, or Combat Engineer or anything else you can put 'Combat' in front of? Or is it enough to simply have served in a combat zone?
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SSgt Rick Glime
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That's pretty typical of a Vietnam vet. "You didn't see combat" response is something you'd expect to hear. There is nothing post Vietnam era that measures up to what they went through. Don't believe me, ask one. It's the same at my local VFW, they refuse to recognize my participation in the Gulf War because it was such a short war. Sorry fellas.
You are recruited as a Combat Medic, trained as a Combat Medic, assigned to a unit as a Combat Medic. Looks like, smells like, tastes like, therefore it must be true! You're a combat Medic!!
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SFC Donald Chase
SFC Donald Chase
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I understand the confusion over the Vietnam Vet thing as I am considered to be a "Vietnam Era Veteran" even though they pulled the plug while I was still in Basic training. I go to great lengths to make people understand that simple fact but as for the Gulf War, unless these individuals making such disparaging comments were there themselves they have no room to talk.
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SP5 Peter Keane
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Unless you have been awarded the CMB, you are a medic. Don't get me wrong, I know that todays medics know a hell of a lot more than those of us from Nam, hell we got our training in firefights.

Here is a excerpt from Army HRC regarding the award
Since inception, the intent of the Department of the Army regarding this requirement has been that medical personnel must be personally present and under fire in order to be eligible for the awarding of the badge. So stringent was this requirement during the Vietnam era that recommending officials were required to document the place (in six digit coordinates), time, type, and intensity of fire to which the proposed recipient was exposed. This fact naturally precludes the awarding of the badge to those medical personnel who accompany infantry units into a potential engagement area but do not come under enemy fire. Over the years, there has been some confusion concerning the phrase "...in direct support of an infantry unit...". The CMB is intended for, and awarded to, those medical personnel who accompany the infantryman into combat. The Army has never approved of deviations from this purpose and its restrictive criteria.
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SFC Donald Chase
SFC Donald Chase
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Gee does that mean I qualify along with the entire 1oth Mash as we were directly under the Scud missiles as they were being blown up by Patriot Missiles? The Designation Combat Medic has always been attached to the basic and advanced field medics, take a look at all the recruiting information over the years up to now.

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/medical-and-emergency/combat-medic-specialist.html
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1SG Donald Elmore
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If a Medic has been trained to be a "Combat Medic" then that is his title/MOS. Combat medics or Field medics (or medics) are military personnel who have been trained to at least an EMT level (16-week course in the U.S. Army),[1] and are responsible for providing first aid and front line trauma care on the battlefield. They are also responsible for providing continuing medical care in the absence of a readily available physician, including care for disease and battle injuries. Combat medics are normally co-located with the combat troops they serve in order to easily move with the troops and monitor ongoing health.
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SSG Eddie Montalvo
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When a government document asks for an MOS, they're not asking for anything but the code number assigned to jobs in the Armed Forces. Infantryman is not an MOS, but 11B is, same goes for any other MOS. Learn to read, answer, and understand the question before answering it, And don't add or change anymore than what it asks. Plenty of times I've been asked by the civilian world what my MOS was and I've answered 11B40, then go into explaining about Infantry, not the reverse.
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SPC Mark Spivey
SPC Mark Spivey
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I certainly spent some time in the motor pool. After sick call was over and trying to stay "out of sight " of any unnecessary details , keeping the M880 and Ambulance up and running in top shape was always a better deal. You hit the nail on the head with your comments as I had the good fortune of being in a Combat unit where I was highly respected but when I went to do some TDY in the Hospital for a few months I really had to prove myself and skills but made the best of it.
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SSG Dave Johnston
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In the Mid to late '70s until "Desert Storm" we were a "lost" MOS; our "Hospital" counterparts didn't think we knew our MOS, and if we were un-lucky enough to have a hospital medic assigned it took what, 3 months to integrate them into the unit. also while we're in the Aid-station reviewing Med Records for shots, physicals, PRP, putting them together per AR 40-XXX; some members of the unit thought we were just goofing off and needed to hang out in the motor pool for a few hours a day.

CBT Medic; that was what Ft. Sam considered us if we ended up in a CBT ARMS unit.
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SSG Dave Johnston
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In the Mid to late '70s until "Desert Storm" we were a "lost" MOS; our "Hospital" counterparts didn't think we knew our MOS, and if we were un-lucky enough to have a hospital medic assigned it took what, 3 months to integrate them into the unit. also while we're in the Aid-station reviewing Med Records for shots, physicals, PRP, putting them together per AR 40-XXX; some members of the unit thought we were just goofing off and needed to hang out in the motor pool for a few hours a day.

CBT Medic; that was what Ft. Sam considered us if we ended up in a CBT ARMS unit.
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SPC Mark Spivey
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In 1980 the Medic's mos was 91B, however the course was called Medical Specialist course. As a 91B you could be assigned to a combat related unit for example an airborne unit or any unit in the "rapid deployment force" or stationed in a medical unit, or any unit over seas that is first line defense at that time during "Cold War". A Medical Specialist needed to have the skill set to work in the hospital setting as well as the Aid station/division clearing station, or front line "combat" duties. The discussions about weapons of choice secondary I believe, I was stationed in Germany from 1980-1983 and fortunately did not have to go through wartime Army however I was willing and prepared to do so. I did earn my EFMB, Expert Field Medical Badge,which was very challenging and I am proud of that. I do know at times in AIT instructors would refer to us as combat medics but I believe you need the "combat experience" to call yourself that. However you should be prepared for war. On a side note I would carry the the M-16 and the 45. The standard Medic bag needs to be supplemented and most guys I knew,did that. Question for any of you out there..... why did they get rid of the 91B ? When I was in they had a 91 C but it was so long they made a short couse so the guys who were 91C's always had to say if they were short course or long. They were the equivalent to nurses( LVN )
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MSG Mark Million
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Reposting as my original response is buried way down in the chaff.
The "Combat" in the term Combat Medic refers to someone who is expected to be able to perform medical treatments in a combat environment, I believe this is mostly geared towards ensuring recruits have a better understanding of the expectations for the MOS. Many of the manuals for medics are titled or reference "Combat Medic". It is referring to what those medics are expected to be able to do, not what they have done.
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PFC Brian Lesnikowski
PFC Brian Lesnikowski
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Amen and airborne MSG
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
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Update. They changed 68W's from healthcare specialist back to combat medic.
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
SGT Victoria Belbusti
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis - The tradition is still there. I will say it's crazy with all these branches and no one being able to agree with differences in their rules lol
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis
SGT Jeffrey Dennis
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SGT Victoria Belbusti - well I'm glad to hear that they haven't completely dispensed with the tradition. Having all the Medics train on one base isn't necessarily a bad idea but I think they should keep the Army separate from it because we are the best we are the standard.
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis
SGT Jeffrey Dennis
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis - not to mention, when I went through, we were 91W,they changed it to 68W while I was still in. Why? Why?
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis - The medics don't train together. Air Force and Navy train their medics separately.
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SGT Bryan Stanley
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We are called combat medics because our training is geared toward a combat environment. We get clinical training too, but that is not our main focus. That is why we also have the Expert Field Medical Badge (EFMB), of which I'm a recipient. All the tasks are common tasks and medical tasks in a simulated combat environment. I was also in Germany in the late 80's. SGT Wilcox, where were you stationed?
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