Posted on Jul 27, 2020
Is commissioning from enlisted to officer at 32-33 years old too old?
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I’m planning on doing the Green to Gold 2 year active duty option within the next year or two once I finish my AA degree.By the time I commission I’ll be 32-33 years old. I’m 28 now. Has anyone else commissioned in their 30’s before? How was your experience and what was it like at your unit.
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I was 31 years and 10 months old when I commissioned in December. I’m currently in BOLC. You are going to be 33 years old in 5 years regardless of what you do. If you want to commission go for it.
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This is my favorite kind of topic (old people stuff). I literally pinned 2LT when I was 42 years old. When I was SELECTED I was 41, but the process took it's sweet time, and orders for the commission weren't actually cut until AFTER my 42nd b-day. So I got an age waiver as well. Neither here nor there.
Here's how I looked at it. LTC is a really successful retirement rank. I have enough time to get there (if I don't putz around). You'll have 10 more years to do it, and COL could be in your cross hairs as well. Looks like you are Supply/Logistics. YOU ARE GOLDEN!!!!!!!!!!! There will always be opportunities for you. You should get promoted from 2LT to LTC on your first look every time if you hit all your marks and are never flagged.
My Drill SGT asked why I would want to be a 40 year old LT. Keeping my mouth shut at the time I thought to myself I'm not going to be a 40 year old LT. I'm going to be a 60 year old LTC.
Plus, your pay will top out at the O1E scale.
As well, you kind of get to coast if you want. You're military career education starts all over. Expectations for a seasoned SSG are different than those of a new 2LT. You could take on more if you want, but that's for you to manage. Take a breather and enjoy your new TRADOC path for what it is.
While I was a USAR officer 2LT at Ft Lee in BOLC we were picking grass out of the sidewalk around the school house (we were being reminded of our place in the officer pecking order). I always appreciate how much I actually get paid for the actual work I have to do. So there I was picking weeds out of the sidewalk earning top tier 2LT pay (prior service), getting paid CALIFORNIA BAH, and pulling down PER DIEM as well. Can I do this forever :-)
Here's how I looked at it. LTC is a really successful retirement rank. I have enough time to get there (if I don't putz around). You'll have 10 more years to do it, and COL could be in your cross hairs as well. Looks like you are Supply/Logistics. YOU ARE GOLDEN!!!!!!!!!!! There will always be opportunities for you. You should get promoted from 2LT to LTC on your first look every time if you hit all your marks and are never flagged.
My Drill SGT asked why I would want to be a 40 year old LT. Keeping my mouth shut at the time I thought to myself I'm not going to be a 40 year old LT. I'm going to be a 60 year old LTC.
Plus, your pay will top out at the O1E scale.
As well, you kind of get to coast if you want. You're military career education starts all over. Expectations for a seasoned SSG are different than those of a new 2LT. You could take on more if you want, but that's for you to manage. Take a breather and enjoy your new TRADOC path for what it is.
While I was a USAR officer 2LT at Ft Lee in BOLC we were picking grass out of the sidewalk around the school house (we were being reminded of our place in the officer pecking order). I always appreciate how much I actually get paid for the actual work I have to do. So there I was picking weeds out of the sidewalk earning top tier 2LT pay (prior service), getting paid CALIFORNIA BAH, and pulling down PER DIEM as well. Can I do this forever :-)
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CPT (Join to see) Sir, thank you so much for your words of encouragement and motivation. You’ve definitely inspired me. To commission in your 40’s is amazing. If you can do it, then I definitely can. Honestly, I hope to retire at BG if possible so I can say I lived up to my first name. I really appreciate all the info about the pay, etc, as well. Great info!
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I honestly think the hardest part is going from being somebody back to the bottom. Yes people will acknowledge your prior service and I am sure your dress uniform shows it but at the end of the day you are wearing the gold bar. I pinned major and found out that majors are the 2LT of the field grade officers. The best advice I was not given and probably would not have followed is you have two ears and one mouth, listen twice as much as you talk. I turned 30 as a 2LT during the second battle of Fallujah and was in the ICU at LRMC taking care of blown up kids.
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MAJ Byron Oyler Sir, thank you for the information. Never looked at it that way before but being an officer is a step up for me so I look forward to becoming a 2nd LT. I will keep this knowledge in mind.
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I was 2 weeks shy of my 40th birthday when I got commissioned. OBC was a bit of a pain trying to keep up physically with a bunch of guys nearly half my age but other than that it's never been an issue other than a few good natured jokes and pranks.
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LTC (Join to see) wow, sir that’s incredible. Thank you so much for your input. I look forward to good natured jokes and pranks.
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SSG (Join to see) - best prank ever: I was a 44 y/o 1LT and one of my NCOs swapped out the rank on my PC and field jacket with LTC rank. I didn't notice it until I got to the PX at lunch and had a couple of majors salute me as I was walking through the parking lot. Fortunately I was/looked old enough to be a LTC so I was able to pull it off.
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If it’s your passion to lead Soldiers, go for it. Be aware that there will be times when your age may work against you. I was a 35 year old 2LT working as a PL and my commander was 27. Some people will be intimidated by your age and experience and not always give you the benefit of the doubt or allow you to make mistakes. Currently my “peer” she group are all Colonels, but I’m not. This requires you exercise humility and remember that the military is very rank central. As long as you don’t start to remind people that you’re “very experienced and should listen to you”, you should be okay. You’ll have to learn how to influence people without them having to listen to you. Good luck.
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I was a 40 y/o 2LT, was older than my BN CO. My "peer" age group are all retired. lol
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MAJ Byron Oyler
I discovered at least in the nurse corps when you pin major you are just the 2LT of the field grade officers.
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MAJ Samuel Weber Sir, thank you for that excellent advice and wisdom. I will make sure to remember this and apply it to my leader pocketbook. I look forward to this next journey.
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Nope! If you have the ability to comission, go for it! Your previous enlisted time will be a benefit to you as an officer. That's my one regret now that I am retired.
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SFC Michael Krogmann SFC, thank you for you encouragement. That is a big part of why I am taking this path. I simply don’t want to look back and ask myself “what if”. I have one life to live so the time to do it is now. Thank you for your service! I won’t let you down.
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I’m starting my final year of the 2-year ADO option which required both an age and TIS waiver. I’ll be 33 years old when commissioning next year and able to retire at 43 years old which is still pretty young. I’d say go for it and possibly CLEP some classes so you can put in your packet sooner rather than later.
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I would recommend it. I commissioned in my 30's. I was a LT in Ranger School at 32. It worked out for me well, except for recycling mountains. I then went from the Guard back to the Regular Army. I am much older now but I am still able to perform my duties with ease. I am not fastest officer when we go on runs. I just say that my knowledge weighs me down so I can't keep up but I can still do a 40 minute 5 mile. I would completely recommend you doing it. Just know that to retire as an officer, the service member must have served at least 10 years as a commissioned officer. So if you are commissioning with 15 years of service you won't be able to retire at 20 as an officer. You will retire as your highest enlisted rank. Once you hit 10 as an officer then you are good to go. So if you thought you were only going to do 20 it might not be the best option but on a positive note if you want you can continue to service as long as you keep getting promoted.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
There was a period of time that you did not have to stay ten years to retire commissioned however it was after I had hit the ten years and I did not really pay attention. Long story short, that requirement changes from time to time.
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CPT (Join to see) Sir, thank you for the encouragement and the info on retirement,etc. I plan of staying in as long as I can past 20 so I’m looking forward to the journey and not worried about retiring. I also plan on branching Infantry like yourself. It’s cool to see you’re in 1P. I was there in G co from ‘13-‘16. H-minus!
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I knew a Marine Sgt who was commissioned in his 30’s. He actually needed an age waiver. He had no problems with OCS...
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I did it twice at an older age. 36 in the Reserves and again (new commission but same branch) at 41 for active duty. Yes you’ll be older and behind peers the same age. But was well worth it as far as income, educational opportunities, now retirement check, etc.
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SSG (Join to see) most people will realize, that like me, you were prior enlisted. Generally garners a little more respect.
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