Posted on Feb 18, 2016
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First, I am not qualified to determine who is or is not a Christian. Second, neither is anyone else.
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LTC David Brown
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Of course the Pope over stepped. Mexico has much more draconian immigration laws and enforces them ! Did the Pope condemn Mexico? The Vatican City state has some of the strictest immigration laws in the world, and yes they are enforced. There is something in scripture about the beam in your own eye...
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SSG William Rhodes
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Trump a Christian? Bahahaha, if that man steps in church, he will burst into flames!! I don't think the pope is overstepping. The Pope is the Catholic world leader representative and as such, it is his duty to shine a light at a controversial issue that will affect not only our country but to the international communities. Now since the Pope didn't make such a remarkable comments about Trump like Putin did, of course now The Pope will be trash around by Trump and his puppets!
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SSG Trevor S.
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The Pope can have an opinion, but I find his walled city state an amusing backdrop to his hypocrisy on this issue.
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LTC John Shaw
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Faith is the determining aspect of the Protestant church Trump says he is. So yes he is a Christian. He may not be a Catholic, the Pope can make the call on that one. I find it odd that those who maintain walls and security to protect themselves against others feel free to bash those who call out the issue for what it is. It show the Pope's hypocrisy which is disappointing. It highlights Trump, who is an egotistical personality who is not worthy of the press coverage.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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Yes, the Pope needs to shut up.
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CWO4 Richard Williams
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The pope. Wow to me he has overstepped. Keep you old ass in Rome
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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Two issue here.
1. Trump is a Christian?
2. Pope should stick his finger in the primary politic?

1. Anyone can hold a bible and said I am a Christian. :) Lets judge him on the fruit of his labor.

2. He isn't even an American!!! does that answer the question? but evenPutin can put his finger in the American politic too ...
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May I add a correction, in case we have a few outside the Unites States on this board. Of course Pope Francis is not a citizen of these United States, but well a natural born citizen in the Americas. The colloquial term 'American' is often wrongly used to describe someone from the collaboration of States, inside America.
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SGT (Join to see) - OK, I guess I should use United States Citizen then :D lol
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SMSgt Tony Barnes
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I see little evidence he has ever been born again.
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SMSgt Tony Barnes
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It's not my view...it's the words of Christ. Unfortunately, religion has decided to manipulate His words.
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SGT Lou Meza
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SGT (Join to see) - Yes , we must be born again . For those who are born once will die twice and those who are born twice shall die once .
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SMSgt Tony Barnes
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A key is understanding where religion has polluted with all kinds of man made doctrines...the Bible should be the final authority. If is not in the book...it's pollution.
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SMSgt Tony Barnes - Well, if you truly have that opinion - the King James translation, must surely not be accurate enough. I mean the translation of the book is far from true.
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A1C Melissa Jackson
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I'd have to say that the pope was out of line. He IS the leader of another country- even if it is only a few square miles- so seeking to influence our elections seems- undesirable. The good thing is that people here have the choice to ignore him, or use his opinion to give weight to their election decision. He was out of line, but I think that Trump is making a terrible strategic decision by whipping back at the pope. There are a large number of religious people who venerate the pope, and when he goes into attack mode with such a man- not good. He needs to cool his jets because his public response requires some diplomacy, and this is a perfect example of his potential to be a good national leader. The appropriate response to others who "dis" you is not always to jump up and scream about your feelings being hurt and what you think if them back (the world is not a school yard) and threaten everyone with frivolous lawsuits. I LOVED what Ted Cruise said about it when "The Donald" threatened HIM with a lawsuit!

In any regard, as for whether or not Trump is a Christian- well, his values do not match mine. The greed, the stepping on the little guy and using the plight of some of the most powerless people in the world to further his cause, the narcissistic and bombastic approach- these things just do not fit into my puzzle of what it is to be a believer and a member of the body of Christ. HOWEVER, it is absolutely positively NOT mine to speculate on the quality of his Christianity, or to try to judge what he should be saying about religion and faith in general. Not my role. God can take care of that just fine, so I leave it at his feet.
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