Posted on Aug 19, 2018
Is it always necessary to take credit? Is it necessary to show a junior the wrath to provoke or encourage the best?
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In Kerala, India the floods have wrecked havoc and people are crammed in makeshift shelters ignorant of whether they will live to see their homes again. Some don't even have basic necessities in these shelters. It is a national crisis. In the midst of it all, a professional took to social media claiming that the affected were only from upper and middle class societies. Media investigated and found the opposite to be true. However, by then social media had praised the reporting professional for fake news. Did this professional need to spread fake news and garner credit for inconsistent information?
Many moons ago, a junior officer in the US Army was busy doing his job and earning credit properly. A new senior experienced this junior winning the respect of all alike, which didn't sit too well with that new superior. The superior officer threatened his understudy with his wrath, behind closed doors, but those threats proved useless in the face of respect. The superior officer then used the MHE to put the junior in disrepute, but this failed too. Then, the new senior spread fake news against his understudy and this time it worked to ruin the junior and bring that officer into disrepute. Once in disrepute, the superior officer revisited the MHE and attempted again to further damage the junior officer, but the attempt was unsuccessful again. A few months later, spreading fake news, the superior officer was successful in using the EMHE to illegally imprison his junior. Has the senior officer won or; has the Army been weakened or; the fall of one junior by the wrath of a superior is of no consequence in the Army?
I know this is life, but does life call for such unjust behavior in society?
Many moons ago, a junior officer in the US Army was busy doing his job and earning credit properly. A new senior experienced this junior winning the respect of all alike, which didn't sit too well with that new superior. The superior officer threatened his understudy with his wrath, behind closed doors, but those threats proved useless in the face of respect. The superior officer then used the MHE to put the junior in disrepute, but this failed too. Then, the new senior spread fake news against his understudy and this time it worked to ruin the junior and bring that officer into disrepute. Once in disrepute, the superior officer revisited the MHE and attempted again to further damage the junior officer, but the attempt was unsuccessful again. A few months later, spreading fake news, the superior officer was successful in using the EMHE to illegally imprison his junior. Has the senior officer won or; has the Army been weakened or; the fall of one junior by the wrath of a superior is of no consequence in the Army?
I know this is life, but does life call for such unjust behavior in society?
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In the Senior's mind, they did win. But they also lost. But in all honesty, this is pretty much how the world has always been ran where the higher powers will use and squash those beneath them to get ahead. Not always the case, but practically the norm.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
What you believe is that such wrath is normal and that superiors generally use power and position to put juniors into disrepute to get ahead, i.e. screw-up and move-up, it would seem; right MSG (Join to see) ?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Honestly, I try not to believe the world is like this....especially in the military. Sadly, however, I have seen this time and time again. In my first active duty unit, I had an XO that used anyone and everyone at every moment he could to the further advancement of his career. Saw this time and again at LRMC. Currently seeing this now with my current unit. I am certainly not saying ALL leaders act is such a fashion, but it does appear to be a trend with some leaders in certain positions. I personally hate it when people do this, so I make it a point to NEVER use my people for my advancement. And I never take credit for what they do. My Soldiers leave for the day first. My Soldiers eat first. My Soldiers get recognition first. The only thing I will do first is that if any sabot rounds come in my sections direction, I will take those hits before my Soldiers will. Also, take into account the most recent incident where that Air Force Colonel that was in charge of 91st Security Forces Group, COL Jason Beers was fired after weapons and explosives were lost. He was fired from that position but only to get assigned to AFSOC as the Cheif of AFSOC Installations Division. This is a clear case of screw-up and move-up.
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Most of your posts that I've read all have the same vibe. It would appear that you are the one who believes his superior officer has treated you unjustly. And perhaps that is indeed the case. But as it's been said before, you have to address this issue within the means the Army has set up (i.e. IG). Posting vague references to some situation and asking an obvious question like, "is it always necessary to take credit?" probably won't help much. The obvious answer is of course not. But it's hard to apply that to your situation without details of what is actually going on.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
You are absolutely correct in your observation MAJ (Join to see), I tend to do so since that instance was my low in the Army. Other than that instance my career was without hardship at all. The IG responded to my Privacy Act request by stating it had answered all my questions and addressed all my concerns, when I requested all reports of investigation into my complaint. I received no reports of investigation into my case, till date. I requested the same several times, but I have yet to receive any reports from the IG. However, you are absolutely right that the IG is the process. I keep comparing this to other wrongs, perhaps, because I can't believe the Army never actually investigated my case.
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I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread really is. Are you asking us to comment about whether we think it is appropriate for an officer to use false allegations to force a subordinate officer to receive mental evaluations? Did you expect anyone to say yes?
General Schoomaker, former SFOD and SOCOM Commander had a set of rules he used in his units. One of them was "life isn't fair. Get over it." I don't know what else you are expecting in terms of a response.
General Schoomaker, former SFOD and SOCOM Commander had a set of rules he used in his units. One of them was "life isn't fair. Get over it." I don't know what else you are expecting in terms of a response.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Fake news in crisis versus fake charges in the military; are there any similarities LTC (Join to see) Sir?
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