Posted on May 31, 2016
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TSgt Bret Whitmore
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No one can pick their wars, Specialist. To claim otherwise is pure B.S.

My wars were the last nine years of the Cold War, Urgent Fury, and Desert Shield/Storm. The latter two I was on-deck for, my ruck already packed or my chalk number on orders for the next team into the fray. But the lights went out on both before my team had a chance at-bat. The first one, however, I was an active combatant (and thank GOD no thermonuclear free-fire zone was ever declared) despite the fact for nearly two whole enlistments, guarding ICBMs or GLCM missiles miles away from Ivan (whether here in the Upper Midwest or in the forests of W. Germany) I still served at ground-zero of what might have been the front lines of World War III, had the USSR launched a preemptive first-strike.

Whether the rest of the world knew about us or even cared, SAC, USAFE, AAC interceptors, Navy Boomers, tin-can Sailors, Coasties chasing Soviet trawlers, Army tankers and P-II troops in W. Germany (and all the rest) sure as hell knew we were in it together and truly AT WAR with the Soviet bear. Only the ignorant claim otherwise, or that ours was a bloodless time period, or that the damnable phrase "Peacetime Service" came without a cost in human sweat, blood or lives. To assume so is an indefensible insult to all the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Coasties (our friends, brothers and sisters) who died in the line-of-duty from 1946-1991. You of a younger generation have our determination and resolve to thank you're still alive to pose such ludicrous questions.

Many times I've faced junior noobs with the mindset they're better, stronger, faster, more elite or whatever, simply because of time or place, MOS or school, or pure dumb luck. True leaders don't draw attention to themselves. They sure as hell don't need to brag. It takes EVERY troop to win a war, every MOS, AFSC, Rate, etc., and even those sorry chest-pounding wind-bags and wannabes, too dumb to know any better.

Last time I checked the Vet Center places a combat- requirement on access to their services. Stupid idea I think, considering if they want to truly save lives, they need to realize it's both combat and non-combat Vets among the shameful "21-a-day" suicide statistic. Those among us in dire straights need all the help they can get, but to shut their doors to those outside of certain conflicts or locations??!!! Gimme a break!

The VA (rightly) places no combat-zone requirement on the use of their services, despite certain reasonable ranking systems prioritizing need and access. Geography, and whether bullets and bombs were currently in-play or not, should NEVER make a difference. We ALL signed Uncle Sam's blank check and put our lives on the line. As long as we finished our careers with a clean and honorable DD214, we're ALL deserving of access to the help and services of the nation we pledged our lives to protect, when we need them.
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SSgt Annette McCoy
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I can’t see far enough back on the thread to see if someone already said this, but VA funding is based on the number of veterans signed up. Signing up non-combat veterans allows the VA to offer more services to combat vets.
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MSG James Hughs
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WHY NOT.... If they volunteered / was drafted and he or she served honorably......they are veterans..... combat is often just the luck of the draw.... but more importantly WE ARE ALL PART OF THE SAME TEAM.....if that REMF had not driven that truck of ammo to the issue point.....I would not have lasted long in the jungle..... he needs me at the point of the spear.....but I also need him and probably would not survive without him
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1LT Tom Wilson
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This continues to be an obnoxious question.
If a former member received the National Defense Service Medal, s/he is elgible for VA benefits.

The mercenary parasites who had other priorities than military service and currently want to privitize the VA take great comfort in this sort of insidious proposal. They just want to gut the VA, sell it for scrap and reward themselves the proceeds in the name of "cost efficiency". If you need a more concret example, the Freedom Caucus want to do with the VA what Frank Lorenzo did to Eastern Airline and get rich in the same way,

It is naked vultue capitalism, pure and simple.
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SPC Steven Depuy
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To me its a personal choice. If you served, its your right. I don't, because it overloaded and people who need help can't get it. But I have insurance and a decent job, so its a choice I can afford to make.
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SSgt Jim Gilmore
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The sign says: Department of Veterans Affairs not Department of Combat Veterans Affairs. Sounds like someone crapped in your kibble. Grow a pair and then build a bridge and get over it.
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PO3 Tamee Chester
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I was kicked out of the va healthcare system after 6 years in. They said my husband and I make too much money (combined gross 48,000). They also told me that it goes back to when I first applied, that some numbers did not match and I should not have been accepted (their error, my fault). I am an honorably discharged veteran of the the United States Navy, was deployed halfway around the world. It seems I am not "good enough" of a veteran for my country. I am heartbroken.
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SrA A.A. Hall
SrA A.A. Hall
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You need to contact your VSO, or DAV they can help you get established at any VA. money shouldn't be why they said you weren't eligible. as long as you have a DD214 you should be ok. I do think that your service number might have been misprinted and that can be a real serious problem. Try again.
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SPC Barbara (Crocker) Carlson
SPC Barbara (Crocker) Carlson
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From va.gov: "Veterans whose income exceed VA income limits as well as those who choose not to complete the financial assessment at the time of enrollment, must agree to pay required copays for health care services to become eligible for VA healthcare services."

If your income is higher than the 'threshold' for free VA health care, then you can choose to stay with VA but pay co-pays (office visits are $50 for specialists and $15 for Primary Care. There are also co-pays for prescriptions meds and inpatient care.

If you have rated service-connected condition(s), you won't have co-pays for care related to that/those service-connected condition(s) but may have co-pays for non-SC stuff depending on your 'category'. If your spouse is a vet, same conditions apply.
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SSgt Michael Cox
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Vet Centers are ment for Combat Veterans but if you have PTS or are a MST victim then you can still go. As for the VA Medical Centers any veteran who has been honorably discharged can and should go and register. You get 5 years of free medical upon separation and free hearing and vision for life.

You should also register on Ebenefits as well as see a Veteran Service Officer or (VSO) to see if you might be able to claim any service connected disabilities.
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SPC Barbara (Crocker) Carlson
SPC Barbara (Crocker) Carlson
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From va.gov: "OEF/OIF/OND combat Veterans can receive cost free medical care for any condition related to their service in the Iraq/Afghanistan theater for five years after the date of their discharge or release."

Family members of those who served in combat areas are also eligible for Vet Center services.

'Other than dishonorable' veterans are eligible for VA Health Care. Depending on your family income you may have to pay co-pays. From va.gov: "Veterans whose income exceed VA income limits as well as those who choose not to complete the financial assessment at the time of enrollment, must agree to pay required copays for health care services to become eligible for VA healthcare services."
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SSgt Michael Cox
SSgt Michael Cox
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You only have to pay co-pays for prescriptions if you aren't 50% VA Disabled or like my cholesterol and cancer it isn't service connected yet. Or like SPC Carlson said you make to much money.

As for the Vet Centers, this is how they work. For MST it doesn't matter if you were in combat or not. It also doesn't matter if the Sexual Assault while on duty. As for PTS and family counseling combat veterans as well as current and former spouses if the trauma was caused by the service member.
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SSgt James Connolly
SSgt James Connolly
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The only time you pay a co-pay is for a NONE.SERVICE connected condition you were treated for any veteran can be treated at the V.A. If they Have served a certain amount of time on active Duty.If you go to the V.A. before filing a claim someone steered you in the wrong direction, always see a National Service Officer before applying. A V.A. service officer works for the system you are trying to challenge. Search for yourself someone who is qualified and makes you feel at ease, he or she will help you put a claim together and be in your corner representing you. Never lie to your NSO I don't care what you tell anyone else, but it will come back to bite you in the ass if you are not honest with any NSO. Talk with some of the old timers and yes you are probably going to have to take some shit, they are only playing with you because we are probably jealous that we could not or were not allowed to fight a war like you people have or did have before Washington tied your hands.
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FN Charlie Spivey
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As long as you weren't Dishonorably discharged, you can receive VA services. Doesn't matter if you did a Combat tour or not. You don't have to be Service Connected either. A lot are, but there are a lot that are just VA Enrollees.
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SSgt James Connolly
SSgt James Connolly
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Right on Charlie
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner…The Specialists doesn't specify his problem beyond an heart issue. The chances are the VA is not the place for you, the majority of the Doctors in a VA Med. Ctr. are interns do ing their residency, get evaluated and the VA will let you get private health care. There is a lot of condition that a training hospital like the VA don't do well with. The VA not acknowledges that and are letting and even helping the Veteran find the best available help. This has nothing to do with ones experience in combat or not. It is a health issue.
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