Posted on Mar 3, 2020
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Does anyone know if its Mandatory to provide the exact amount of days you have earned on your DA 31 block 9 ? Every unit I been too, is different, but not a single unit has ever requested of me to provide the exact amount of numbers of leave I have accrued when taking leave. I have 14 use or lose (which I normally end up using through out the year. When I have asked my S1 , the response is "its in the reg" but they can never provide it in black or white. Thanks for any input guiding me in the right direction.
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Compromising your integrity, or permitting another Soldier to do so to benefit from a 4-day pass is selling one's self very short.
Not saying you or anyone else compromised their integrity, but asking whether it is mandatory to provide accurate information on any form, and saying S1 has access to it, seems to be seeking justification for delibeeately providing false information.
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Step 4 specifically states to provide a copy of most recent LES. There is you answer. Easy research. Why would you lie about the number of days you have anyway? Integrity, its a thing!!!!!!!!! And yes every place is different, because if you read this regulation its states that every commander WILL have a leave and pass program. But never lie about the number of days leave you have accrued SSG. Bad business.

AR 600-8-10

4–4. Steps to request ordinary leave
The steps to request ordinary leave are shown in table 4–2.
Table 4–2
Request ordinary leave
Step Work center Required action
1 Soldier On DA Form 31 (Request and Authority for Leave) (chap 12), complete blocks 2
through 11.
2 Soldier On DA Form 31, block 7, check ordinary.
3 Soldier Read instruction on reverse side of DA Form 31. If needed, request clarification.
4 Soldier Provide the latest LES to first person in chain of command with leave request (if
applicable, annotate corrections to ending leave balance and provide reason for
discrepancy).
5 Soldier Obtain chain of command recommendation in block 12 and forward to unit commander (or designee) for approval.
6 Unit Receive leave requests and follow processing procedures in paragraphs 12–1
and 12–3.
AR 600–8–10 • 15 February 2006 9
Table 4–2
Request ordinary leave—Continued
Step Work center Required action
7 BNS1 Receive leave request from unit and follow processing procedures in paragraphs
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MSG (Join to see) - Roger that MSG , sometimes it feels that were alone in providing guidance and mentorship with Army Doctrine in cleaning up some of the "basic" things of being a soldier. In such cases, I have to implement just about every MRT skill that I have learn to maintain professional.
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SSG (Join to see) - Hunt the Good stuff. hahaha
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MSG (Join to see) - Roger that MSG , :) I hunted for proper guidance (good stuff) and I got it. Thank you once again MSG.
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Anyone know if you are supposed to enter the 'exact' number of leave days accrued on the DA31? I was told that 'Finance' won't accept a DA31 with a Leave accrual of, for example, xx.5....in which case you are supposed to 'round down'....never heard that, if it's true certainly it is written somewhere.
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Others have already pretty much said the why as to you should enter what your LES says for amount Accrued. Lets say SGT Snuffy requests 10 days leave fills out DA 31 requesting 10 days but SGT Snuffy only has accrued 7 days to date. The Commander can only approve what you have in the bank in 99% of the requests( Some special circumstances can be dealt with on a case by case basis) Most commanders do not take every single Request and run all the entries through the system to make sure they are accurate with days. So SGT Snuffies leave form squeaks through and he goes on leave and is carried on the unit report as being on leave. SGT Snuffy returns ten days later signs of of leave and the form is processed and then big red Flagg pops up when the data is entered into the system. So now SGT snuffy lied on his request, CPT Smith catches multiple heat rounds from higher for not micromanaging this troops leave requests and everyone is pissed off. So its best to just do it for all concerned.
Ona. side not a number of years back I was coming off of a deployment and using up my remaining leave. I requested 15 days, which is what I knew I had. But my LES said I never took any leave earlier which I did. The folks at demob tried to get me to take the additional 15 days. I declined both because it was not right and I knew down the line my earlier request would be found and entered and I would be in deep Doo-Doo. Mistakes are made with days entry and tracking all the time and back before computers certain NCO's/Clerks used to charge troops $50 bucks to Lose the Request when the leave was over. Which is a really sorry thing to to do and leads to all sorts of career ending BS. End of war story.
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Roger that, Top. I am very specific on keeping track of leave days taken by me, because of the scenario you just mentioned, I make sure to always have plenty of days available and ensure S1 properly process my leave, the last thing I want for me or any of my guys is for DFAS to take their money away. Top, thank you for your mentorship as well. This helps me grow as an NCO and as Mentor. Gentlemen, thank you all for taking time off your busy schedules to provide guidance, purpose and direction.
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