Is It necessary to have a Soldier take a PT test for His/Her ETS Award?

That seems strange. I did know a guy who was retiring and told to take a pt test to get his award however it was because he was due for one and needed one to put on the Close out NCOER. But for the sheer purpose of an award and they are getting out I think I woulda called BS on it but then again I don't really care about awards.

Personally, I am in a similar situation. I ETS in 2 months and they scheduled me for a PT test on the 21st. I start clearing a week and a half after that so I really don't see the point. I am not receiving an ETS award due to a strange circumstance that could only make sense in Korea (I had to put an FSTE in because I wouldn't receive orders because my DEROS was too close to my ETS date; so they gave me a PCS award on my DEROS date; now I won't get an ETS award apparently). Not only are they having ME do a PT test, they are having three other soldiers that will be chaptered out on November 3rd do one as well. The entire thing just seems unnecessary to me. I am not really affected whether or not I do the PT test; however, my first question when I saw my name, as well as the other soldiers, on the Memorandum was "Can we put this on a resume..?" haha.

Just tell the Soldier to go out there and max out the APFT, it will be his/her last APFT memory from the Army

If the soldier is due or will be due prior to ETS then I see no issue here at all. Just because the service member is leaving doesn't mean they don't have to maintain standards.

Hello SGT Gumiran. Congratulations on the promotion killa. There is nothing in the regulation that states a Soldier has to complete an APFT to receive an ETS award. The regulation does state that ALL soldiers must be physically fit at all times and should be able to perform when called upon. The regulations also state that leaders don't have to recommend you for awards either. Awards are special recognitions and not requirements just for doing what is expected. The fact that the troop is ETSing is an accomplishment in itself however; all situations are different with each soldier. I don't know the history with this troop but if I had to guess I would think that the command team is trying to update their stats or the troop is late on their APFT. Occasionally you will have that one leader who has a personal agenda with a troop and therefore jerks his/her emotional chain to make a point but I cannot say this is the case. You will have to grill the soldier. There is more to the story.

Here is a question for you? How many BN/BDE Commanders are requiring the Company commander and 1SGs to take an APFT before they retire or leave the service in order to receive an award? It doesn't pass the common sense test does it? I know CSMs and Commanders who would kick you out of their office if you came to them with trivial garbage like this. In the meantime, educate the Soldier that they have a mission, the APFT, and motivate the troop to do what needs to done to meet mission. Hope this helps. "Skilled and Resolute".

Last I checked there was nothing that mandated, outside unit policy, that you must give an award to a Soldier that is ETSing.

Unless that soldier needs one for an NCOER/OER or is due a semi-annual by regulation, I'm going to throw the BS flag on this one. If by chance this is a unit policy, there are bigger things in the army today than this kind of "petty shenanigans". Lastly, the 11B in me is thinking this is some CS/CSS silliness.

SGT Gumiran,

For what it's worth...you can refer to Chapter 3, para. 4-2 from the awards regulation to verify he or she is eligible. As for a Soldier who is flagged for APFT failure or enrolled in the AWCP the unit will have to submit their award through the COC to the first GO for approval.

Is the Soldier due an APFT prior to their ETS date?

Go out there take that dive to start that medical and the inquiry that will follow