Posted on Jan 4, 2015
Is it "ok" to go in to a "breastaurant" in uniform?
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2 parts question:
Does your service have a rule against it?
What is your PERSONAL opinion?
What is a "breastaurant"? Places like Hooters, Bikinis, Tilted Kilt, Heart Attack Grill, etc.
Does your service have a rule against it?
What is your PERSONAL opinion?
What is a "breastaurant"? Places like Hooters, Bikinis, Tilted Kilt, Heart Attack Grill, etc.
Uniforms
Ethics
Regulation
Posted 10 y ago
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For the Army AR 670-1 Ch 4 para 4-3 c.(2)
"Personnel may not wear the combat uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear the combat uniform if their activities in the establishment center on the drinking of alcohol."
Additionally, service members in the combat uniform will not sit at the bar
area of a restaurant where the primary purpose of the bar is the selling of alcohol.
Hooters is a restaurant, you can't ban service members from a run of the mill eating establishments without applicable reasoning. I don't particularly eat at Hooters or 'breastaurants". However if I was in invited to eat their by a friend and they're paying for everything, damn skippy I'll be there. I don't turn down free food!
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***For clarification, I have never ate at such an establishment while in uniform during duty/off duty hours. For me it projects the wrong image. You might have caught me at a Golden Corral or at Chipotople for lunch but not a place like Hooters.
"Personnel may not wear the combat uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear the combat uniform if their activities in the establishment center on the drinking of alcohol."
Additionally, service members in the combat uniform will not sit at the bar
area of a restaurant where the primary purpose of the bar is the selling of alcohol.
Hooters is a restaurant, you can't ban service members from a run of the mill eating establishments without applicable reasoning. I don't particularly eat at Hooters or 'breastaurants". However if I was in invited to eat their by a friend and they're paying for everything, damn skippy I'll be there. I don't turn down free food!
EDIT:
***For clarification, I have never ate at such an establishment while in uniform during duty/off duty hours. For me it projects the wrong image. You might have caught me at a Golden Corral or at Chipotople for lunch but not a place like Hooters.
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SSG Donny Martin
Eat where you choose as long as the image portrayed isn't a negative one. The problem is we live in a generation that is so easily offended that you never know whats next. I think the new thing is that certain groups are offended by men with beards. With that clearly out of the way lets address the issue. Hooters has a reputation for what nudity no, drugs, no prostitution no. The images that is negative one is that of a soldier starring in a manner that all young men use, that portrays a demeaning or degrading attitude toward the young lady this is what you should avoid. I personally went home and had lunch with my wife and daughter.
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SSG Cecil Stroud Jr.
Don’t be a little woke bitch. What has the military turned into? I know now retiring in 2007 was the right choice.
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Chicken Strip-Club.
Kay Eff See-Through.
McDoubleDees.
Okay. I've added this to my vocabulary, TSgt Joshua Copeland, and my list for future business plans. Thanks.
Kay Eff See-Through.
McDoubleDees.
Okay. I've added this to my vocabulary, TSgt Joshua Copeland, and my list for future business plans. Thanks.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
Hmmm, that is to bad SGT (Join to see). I am going through a MEB and will be relocating to Kentucky. Do you think those country folks (no offense to my Southern brothers and sisters) are ready for that?
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NO, IT IS NOT OK TO EAT AT A “BREASTAURANT” WHILE IN UNIFORM.
Reasons why:
1. It is arguably a violation of Army Regulation 670-1, that expressly forbids eating in an establishment in uniform where the primary activity is drinking. You can eat there, you can even have a beer, but if your activity is to drink beer and ogle, you are wrong.
2. Perception. A whole lot of people will take notice that a uniformed Soldier – we do stick out – is patronizing an establishment of this type. This brings potential discredit to the uniformed service, and as such is wrong.
3. It is hard for me to imagine that this was a pit stop “to and from” military duty. If you are not performing a military duty, you shouldn’t generally be in uniform. See #2.
I am not here to legislate your morality, but by God if you bring discredit upon my unit due to your determination to do something that is questionable at best, I have a spate of quality corrective training to help you get your head screwed on straight.
Reasons why:
1. It is arguably a violation of Army Regulation 670-1, that expressly forbids eating in an establishment in uniform where the primary activity is drinking. You can eat there, you can even have a beer, but if your activity is to drink beer and ogle, you are wrong.
2. Perception. A whole lot of people will take notice that a uniformed Soldier – we do stick out – is patronizing an establishment of this type. This brings potential discredit to the uniformed service, and as such is wrong.
3. It is hard for me to imagine that this was a pit stop “to and from” military duty. If you are not performing a military duty, you shouldn’t generally be in uniform. See #2.
I am not here to legislate your morality, but by God if you bring discredit upon my unit due to your determination to do something that is questionable at best, I have a spate of quality corrective training to help you get your head screwed on straight.
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SGT James LeFebvre
1SG, I do disagree with you, AR 670-1 (15 Sep 14) specifically states: "4–3. Occasions for wear: (2) Personnel may not wear the combat uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear the combat uniform if their activities in the establishment
center on the drinking of alcohol."
In the example I stated, the Soldier in question is NOT drinking alcohol, is merely eating lunch. (Let's say drinking water for the example) In this case, the Soldier in question may eat lunch there and if you suggest they shouldn't more than once, then you are potentially harassing the Soldier.
I didn't make it in the Army without acquiring wisdom and knowledge either.
center on the drinking of alcohol."
In the example I stated, the Soldier in question is NOT drinking alcohol, is merely eating lunch. (Let's say drinking water for the example) In this case, the Soldier in question may eat lunch there and if you suggest they shouldn't more than once, then you are potentially harassing the Soldier.
I didn't make it in the Army without acquiring wisdom and knowledge either.
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CPT (Join to see)
So what about going to Applebee's or Buffalo Wild Wings for lunch? When I was active duty my commander bought us lunch at Hooter's every Wednesday. We'd drink sweet tea or whatever and half the time some other party (civilian) would buy our meals and we wouldn't know who they were. Strip clubs, heck no, that's not acceptable.
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1SG (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see), while I can see the ambiguity there, I think that the reputations of BW3 and Applebee's is sizably different.
Again, to reiterate, do not wear your uniform - representing the Army - in a manner that could bring discredit to the service. I do not think this is hard, people.
Again, to reiterate, do not wear your uniform - representing the Army - in a manner that could bring discredit to the service. I do not think this is hard, people.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
What's legal and whats unseemly and distasteful are two different things. So why would anyone choose to go to these places in uniform? You have a choice , go change first. There's nothing wrong with Hooters, but I don't expect to ever see a young man or woman there in uniform either.
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