Posted on Mar 17, 2016
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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SFC James Young
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Dear Snot Nosed PFC, have you ever been deployed? Then shut up!
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SSG Thomas McNabb
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SFC Young.
It was a legitimate question from a subordinate troop. Don't be a freaking tool.
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SSG Mess Sgt
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I'm glad your profile says retired, it's NCO'S like you that hold all the troops back.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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What an imbecilic and completely unprofessional answer, unless it was satire that we all missed.
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SPC Darren Coffenberry
SPC Darren Coffenberry
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Senior NCOs like you make subordinates hate the service. I bet you were a shit bag leader too.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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My take young is that first, you just worry about yourself. Afterall, you should respect your superiors, regardless of whether you like them or not. What are you going to do, charge him with Stolen Valor. You need to care of yourself.
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CPT Michael Moffeit
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Do you mean Multi-cam? If so, there's nothing that says he can't wear them. All three are allowed through the transition period.
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WO1 Electronic Maintenance Chief
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Yes they are authorized reguardless of how they got issued or purchased in this case. Get busy being the best Joe you can be and don't sweat these things. Good luck
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SGT Human Intelligence Collector
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PFC,

My advice to you is to worry less about the NCO's uniform that he/she is wearing and more about the experience and leadership they are potentially bringing to your unit. Focus on their ability to perform and on the job technical experience that will in turn make you a better soldier.

-SGT Fullana
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SSG Ian Guttendorf
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First off you need to read regulations, PRIVATE, before you begin to run your mouth. Second E-5 is a pay grade not rank. That sergeant earned their rank, they were recommended by their superior and you should recognize that. Third, why the hell are you on the internet asking when you could have approached that sergeant to fulfill your curiosity?
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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Perhaps the NCO was someone that talk like you post and he was afraid to ask.
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SPC Darren Coffenberry
SPC Darren Coffenberry
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Being a SSG I would assume you have been to leadership schools, how in the heck did you make it through them? Your demeanor is awful.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Goodwill is more than the name of a thrift store. He was truthful so let it go.
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SSG Drill Sergeant
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You can by OCP's on your own, they are not indicative of time overseas. A brand new private can buy and wear them if they want to spend the money.
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SPC (Join to see) I've seen most of your replies. This is the bottom line. If the regulations say that it is authorized, then it is AUTHORIZED. Whether or not you believe that he should be wearing them. Research AR 670-1 and every other memo that has come down to make a determination. Your "opinion" does not count. Bonus tip: Wearing mismatched uniform items is authorized (i.e. full OCP uniform with ACU cold weather gear).

"Can I wear my green fleece or Universal Camouflage Pattern cold weather gear with the OCP?

Answer: Yes. There is no requirement for issued Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment (OCIE) such as Wet Weather gear, and Extended Cold Weather Clothing System (ECWCS) items to be of the same camouflage pattern as the uniform worn. Wear guidance for OCIE is established by the issuing command, and all items that have been issued are permitted for wear in accordance with locally established policies regardless of camouflage pattern."

Source: http://www.army.mil/article/156735/Frequently_Asked_Questions__Operational_Camouflage_Pattern_Uniform/
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1SG Emergency Management Specialist
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The OCP uniform was the standard uniform for Afghanistan from about 2010/2011 to present. Many Soldiers got out after they got back, sold them to surplus stores and probably gave them to buddies. I imagine he was given some from a Soldier who was deployed. The guidance put out by SMA doesn't state anything about having been deployed in order to wear it. It was an assumption that those who had it were previously deployed, but nothing stated they had to of been. Honestly I don't see it as a big deal. If he wears the uniform correctly and doesn't try to pretend he was deployed, who really cares. I wear mine everyday. I will buy the new one when I have too, but I have so many pairs of the OCP from previous deployments, I'll wear them until I can't. Long and short...is it authorized, YES, is it common, first I've heard of it, but it really isn't that big a deal.
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