Posted on Mar 17, 2016
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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PFC Cavalry Scout
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We got them when we went to Kuwait
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SP5 Steven Bryant
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Why didn't you just ask your SGT. That's one thing your SGT should be able to do. Clarify regs and policies. I had no problem with my joes asking me. As aviation and multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan Ive gone through BDU, DCU, UCP, OEF, OCP, and all the flight variations to go with each change. Not to mention dress uniforms. Also as aviation our badges are sewn on because pin on is FOD.
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SPC Combat Engineer
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They don’t care at my unit, as long as they are worn properly
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SPC Greg Campbell
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what if he would of called him a buck. we used it a a term of endearment. e5 was a buck, e6 was a staff, e7 was first. sure wouldnt of used it with NCOs out of my unit. I liked to tell newly minted e5s that I outranked them before their promotion formation. someyimes a far back as that morning when Top sent us on some detail
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SPC Christopher Anderson
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OK here is the thing everyone in this thread missed and failed to train you on SPC, when before you posted this did you consult AR 670-1? I'm almost positive that would have answered any question you may have had....
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From what i was told after my deployment, the deployment uniform was NOT authorized once you had cleared medical after deployment but that was 2011 and things change. The ACU which i know you asked about OCP had AR tags that were uncovered at all times so i would guess that was why.
I am now NG, i was active and i see it a lot in NG - i also know that uniforms are hard to come by in the NG - depending on if you have a awesome Supply SGT - so i turn a blind eye because i understand that in NG you have what you have and make do.
So i guess - my answer is no in garrison - i haven't seen the OCPs and i haven't read the REG which would prolly be the smarter way to approach that Soldier, but if a unit is allowing it - why not save good uniforms.
I would use my old deployment uniforms on the range or if i knew i was doing something that had the chance of ruining a good uniform and will continue to do so until the ACUs phase out.
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SSG Special Forces Medical Sergeant
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Slick right sleeve and no combat patches is not an indication of deployments. There are several AOs that get neither. And several guys that choose not to wear their ERB on their tops. Don’t judge a book by its cover.
Read the regs find you own answers at the source. 670-1 has that answer
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SSG Instructor/Writer
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From all the leadership I had most would say “Judge them on their performance and potential.” The uniform meets the reg.
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Edited 6 y ago
why would u ever think that
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SGT Malcolm Utecht
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If your NCO is giving you a lawful order just do what your told. You are an E4 Specialist, you shouldn't be wrryomg about if he deployed or not. We've all had to take orders and do things in garrison that we don't like it's called the Army just deal with it. Change your water and drink your socks.
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