Posted on Apr 17, 2014
Is it possible for every Soldier (not on profile) to score a 300 on the APFT?
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Everyone has a limit right? If not we could all be gold medalist in the 100m dash. But is it possible no matter how hard someone works they will never reach a 300?<div>If so, is that fair since a APFT score is used directly to determine whether someone will or will not get promoted based off of their total score.</div><div>For example someone who's cut-off for promotion to SSG is 790. They are maxed out on everything but their APFT. No matter what they can't run a sub 13:00 2 mile.</div><div>Maybe APFT scores should be used on a broader scale. Like points go up for every 30 point difference in score. i.e. 270 and up would be max promotion points.</div>
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Most everyone barring physical defect is capable of maxing the APFT with enough hard work.
As a Marine, I typically ran in the 16's and 17's for 3 miles. I wasn't a terribly fast runner, but what I lacked in speed I made up for with endurance, and that I maintained by running 40-50 miles / week. My upper body strength wasn't initially there but I worked hard for a few months and worked myself up from 13 to 20 pullups and earned my first of many 300 Marine Corps PFT's throughout my career. I also took the Army PFT and maxed it. The Navy PRT with it's mile and half run of 8:15? for max was pretty challenging. I think when I took it I ran it in 7:52. Also, the 100 crunches were harder than the 80 bent knee situps I was accustomed to. Am not saying everyone should be able to do what I did, but 13:00 for 2 miles is not too terribly difficult a target.
A 6:30 mile (x2) can be achieved by most young men with a few months dedicated effort. BUT they have to put in the effort and most folks don't.
As a Marine, I typically ran in the 16's and 17's for 3 miles. I wasn't a terribly fast runner, but what I lacked in speed I made up for with endurance, and that I maintained by running 40-50 miles / week. My upper body strength wasn't initially there but I worked hard for a few months and worked myself up from 13 to 20 pullups and earned my first of many 300 Marine Corps PFT's throughout my career. I also took the Army PFT and maxed it. The Navy PRT with it's mile and half run of 8:15? for max was pretty challenging. I think when I took it I ran it in 7:52. Also, the 100 crunches were harder than the 80 bent knee situps I was accustomed to. Am not saying everyone should be able to do what I did, but 13:00 for 2 miles is not too terribly difficult a target.
A 6:30 mile (x2) can be achieved by most young men with a few months dedicated effort. BUT they have to put in the effort and most folks don't.
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Yes, Soldiers can overcome personal limits and can achieve a 300 on an APFT.
Just like any other test, some will just have to work harder at it.
Just like any other test, some will just have to work harder at it.
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SGM Matthew Quick
Agreed (this conversation is getting weird)...physical ability is different. As 13 year old, 7th graders, we were different. Maybe if I cared enough about dunking a basketball in 4th or 5th grade I would have worked on it and achieved a 7th grade goal of dunking a basketball.
Truth be told, I was probably playing Zelda on my Nintendo or playing with Transformers and GI Joe action figures at that time.
Truth be told, I was probably playing Zelda on my Nintendo or playing with Transformers and GI Joe action figures at that time.
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SSG Robert Burns
Zelda. Man you just brought back memories. I still have dreams about fighting that dragon.
I think you and I are important members on this site. Because we deliver strong contrasting views that kind of keeps a balance. I appreciate the debates. Now my wife is yelling at me to go to bed. Later!
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SGM Matthew Quick
And those burning bushes to get 'extras'.
I agree...and I've put off reading far too long...don't piss off the wife. ;)
I agree...and I've put off reading far too long...don't piss off the wife. ;)
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Assuming no physical limitations, and a desire to do so, Yes, everyone/anyone can score 300 or better on the APFT if they so desire. While my days of 300 faded with age, I never scored below a 290... even on my final APFT in 2012... at age 51...
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My skinny ass scored 300 twice... might have taken me 11 years but I did it..
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Not everyone can score a 300 on the APFT but, it should be used to calculate promotion points.
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Anything is possible, it's a matter of how hard and how long you are willing to work on it.
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GySgt (Join to see)
Most people never get there because it's hard and it sucks (I'm for one). I'll try my best to get the highest score possible but to be perfect, I would have to make drastic changes in my workout and diet, and that will take time. Improving run time is the hardest, you should be able to max out on the other two easily, but to get a 3 mile run down to 18min, beast mode would need to be engaged.
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LCpl (Join to see)
A better question is this: dis the marine corps design the pft to be easier for people of a certain body type?
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GySgt (Join to see)
i wouldnt go and say that the Corps designed the PFT to be best suited for a certain body type but deffinitely the running body type has the advantage.
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I believe that through hard work everyone can attain a 300 APFT. I'm working towards that myself and I believe that I can do. As I said I think it just takes hard work and the right time to training to do it.
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Its not impossible but it takes hard work and determaniatioin and a lot of sacriface but it can be acheieved
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PFC Glen King
There is a surgery you can get to make you taller :)
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/08/09/the-gruesome-surgery-to-make-you-taller/
PT is about training. Height is genetic, or cost prohibitive in this case.
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/08/09/the-gruesome-surgery-to-make-you-taller/
PT is about training. Height is genetic, or cost prohibitive in this case.
One of the most radical forms of plastic surgery, there's only one way to make someone permanently taller -- by breaking bones in the legs and allowing them to heal a certain way over an extended time...
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SSG Robert Burns
PFC King, I actually took care of the first person in the Army who went through this surgery. But guess what, she didn't do anything, the surgeon did. It's the same as saying "I can't grow big boobs, but I can get surgery done."
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SSG Robert Burns
Also PT is genetic as well. Go to an elementary school race. Those kids aren't training, they are just running on their individual ability and guess what some are really fast. Way faster than others, and training doesn't have a thing to do with it.
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