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I was Medically separated from the Army last year. I got 10% disability so I ended up getting a severance pay.
My REENTRY Code is 3.
My Separation Code is JEB.
I talked to my old recruiter and he said that I would have to get a waiver, but I could get back in.
So I went to a recruiter near me and she told me that I can't get back in because I medically separated. Now, I don't know if that is true, or if she just didn't want to do my paperwork. Can someone please give me some information and advice?
My REENTRY Code is 3.
My Separation Code is JEB.
I talked to my old recruiter and he said that I would have to get a waiver, but I could get back in.
So I went to a recruiter near me and she told me that I can't get back in because I medically separated. Now, I don't know if that is true, or if she just didn't want to do my paperwork. Can someone please give me some information and advice?
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PFC Erikka S I am not finding a translation for JEB. If you could enlighten on what that means?
My personal story (as has been relayed multiple times):
I was given a medical discharge in 2000; RE-3 Code JFL (Physical Disability with severance pay). I was given 10% for diagnosed migraines.
I fought for 18.5 years to get back in. I burned through 3 different recruiters before I found one that was willing to fight to get me back in. The others opted for the "easy gets" over me, because they knew there would be a fight on multiple levels.
She had to get a waiver for me to go to MEPS. MEPS then had to clear me. I then needed a waiver from Surgeon General of the discharging branch (Active Air Force) in order to get back in. I am now back in the MO Air National Guard.
So, yes, you can get back in. You will need waivers. It will be a fight, and will take some time.
My personal story (as has been relayed multiple times):
I was given a medical discharge in 2000; RE-3 Code JFL (Physical Disability with severance pay). I was given 10% for diagnosed migraines.
I fought for 18.5 years to get back in. I burned through 3 different recruiters before I found one that was willing to fight to get me back in. The others opted for the "easy gets" over me, because they knew there would be a fight on multiple levels.
She had to get a waiver for me to go to MEPS. MEPS then had to clear me. I then needed a waiver from Surgeon General of the discharging branch (Active Air Force) in order to get back in. I am now back in the MO Air National Guard.
So, yes, you can get back in. You will need waivers. It will be a fight, and will take some time.
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I am all about someone trying to return to service, if they are fit to do so. My next comment comes without knowing what your medical issue was and where it is at now. The Army is having an increased focus on Soldier readiness and physical capacity. Part of this is reflected in the new Army Combat Fitness Test. Not only do they want a better assessment of a Soldier's potential ability to handle the rigors of combat deployment, but it will also be a driver to push Soldiers to either step up their physical fitness or get out. The "So What" for you: Things are not going to get any easier. You need to think about the effort you want to put into trying to reenlist and if your condition has healed enough to handle things going forward.
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In a word? That recruiter lied to you. How you separated is irrelevant. What matters is the RE and separation code. RE3 makes it stiff for you to get back in but is doable, as your old recruiter told you.
Sad thing is not all recruiters have the same moral code as you just found out. Go see another recruiter. Go to that recruiters boss. Don't accept some half arsed answer. Make them show you the reg or pam where it states that. If they cannot, it just means it was some BS pulled out of their arse to avoid doing your paperwork because you are not a green recruit and Prior Service require a bit more work.
Sad thing is not all recruiters have the same moral code as you just found out. Go see another recruiter. Go to that recruiters boss. Don't accept some half arsed answer. Make them show you the reg or pam where it states that. If they cannot, it just means it was some BS pulled out of their arse to avoid doing your paperwork because you are not a green recruit and Prior Service require a bit more work.
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SSG Brian G.
SFC (Join to see) - Before you go hopping into something, slow your roll and SLOWLY re-read what I stated. I said rather specifically what matters is the RE code and separation code. You clearly did not so much as read what I wrote or let that impact fully sink in. You read the first few lines and got your dander up.
Last I checked JEB separation code has nothing to do with with misconduct or drug use.
How a person is put out does not matter in the least. They can get retire, voluntarily get out, get med boarded or get put out by non med chapter. All of that is meaningless. What matters is what the commander/commanding authority puts as an RE code and separation narrative. Which is what I said.
Last I checked JEB separation code has nothing to do with with misconduct or drug use.
How a person is put out does not matter in the least. They can get retire, voluntarily get out, get med boarded or get put out by non med chapter. All of that is meaningless. What matters is what the commander/commanding authority puts as an RE code and separation narrative. Which is what I said.
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SSG Brian G.
Go back, check your ego and READ what I put. How a person is put out does not matter. What the CoC puts as their RE code and separation code DOES. Obviously being a 79R does not give you enhanced skills in reading comprehension.
A person can voluntarily get out, get put out through either chater etc., does not matter as how they got out is NOT looked at in terms of them being able to get back in. Let that stir around in your brain and sink in.
What MATTERS is what the RE code is and the Separation code. THOSE are what determine whether the SM can join and what level of hoops they might have to jump through. No whether they voluntarily got on or were chaptered etc., THAT is exactly what I put and what you fail to grasp even remotely.
Great Authority Fallacy there.
As has already been shown time and again, not even a 79R knows it all, this being just another case.
A person can voluntarily get out, get put out through either chater etc., does not matter as how they got out is NOT looked at in terms of them being able to get back in. Let that stir around in your brain and sink in.
What MATTERS is what the RE code is and the Separation code. THOSE are what determine whether the SM can join and what level of hoops they might have to jump through. No whether they voluntarily got on or were chaptered etc., THAT is exactly what I put and what you fail to grasp even remotely.
Great Authority Fallacy there.
As has already been shown time and again, not even a 79R knows it all, this being just another case.
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SSG Steven Davis
Real Quick, I was a 79R, Check out 601-210, that was the bible for Recruiting. I believe you can get back in, but, there will be hurdles. First: You have to prove that whatever reason you were seperated for, is gone or better. The money will be recouped, i assume. Second, You will have to pass the new APFT. These are just two hurdles, there will be more, including but not limited to, interviews with the Station Commander, and Company Leadership team, and also Battalion Leadership Team. Etc... Doable, but tough
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The recruiter recieves credit do recruiting, why would she not do it if authorized. Reentry policies, rules and guidance fluctuate based on recruitment rates. If you were released with a check they closed the door. You can keep searching for a recruiter who sees it differently, or you can ask to see what they are going by in their decision. thank you for u you our service.
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THE JEB code is: JEB Disability, severance pay, non-combat related (enhanced) ! So in order to even process we will need to see the narrative as to why you got out. It's not a yeah or nah answer. People with an RE3 can get in with a waiver (depending on other factors). However, a discharge narrative MUST be in your records and submitted to higher for review along with the entire waiver packet.
So, since you got out with a disability, you would also need medical documentation, not only from when you were in, but all medical documentation since getting out as well.
Since you received a severance pay, you would also have to abide by the pay rules. good luck
So, since you got out with a disability, you would also need medical documentation, not only from when you were in, but all medical documentation since getting out as well.
Since you received a severance pay, you would also have to abide by the pay rules. good luck
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She just doesn't want to do the paperwork. As a prior recruiter my boss man did not like for me to do waivers. I have play soldiers that have been medically separated and re-approved for the army after two knee surgeries. Good luck
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SFC Wanda Estes
I just read the part where you got a severance and you got a percentage of disability That could make the world of difference of whether you're allowed to come back in or not. You need to look at the bottom of your DD-214 where your discharge at
Reason, re code and separation code are and you will find AR 600-. ---. You need to Google this regulation and read it for yourself then you will know what a recruiter can do for you. But the fact that you took a severance and a percentage of disability I would think would change your ability to get a waiver not sure that's reason I tell you to read the reg because you never be wrong. A good luck
Reason, re code and separation code are and you will find AR 600-. ---. You need to Google this regulation and read it for yourself then you will know what a recruiter can do for you. But the fact that you took a severance and a percentage of disability I would think would change your ability to get a waiver not sure that's reason I tell you to read the reg because you never be wrong. A good luck
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SFC Wanda Estes
And also you would need to waivers you would need one waiver for the medical separation. You would need another waiver for your re code because it's a 3.
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According to DFAS: "If you were discharged with severance pay, you cannot go back on active duty or choose to apply for retirement later. However, you may be eligible to apply for monthly disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) if the VA determines your disability is service-connected."
According to CCK, Veterans Law:
Disability Severance Pay (DSP) is a lump sum benefit for service members who are discharged due to a disability. DSP is payed to a service member who is determined to be unfit to perform their required duties, and is then given a disability rating to reflect the severity of their condition. These ratings are based off VA’s Schedule for Rating Disabilities (VASRD), and can range from 0% to 100%.
In order to be eligible to receive DSP, a service member must meet these criteria:
Be found unfit to perform their required duties
Have less than 20 years of military service
Have a disability rating of 20% or less at the time of separation (30% or higher result in disability retirement)
DSP is calculated by adding 2 months of basic pay for each year of service, up to a maximum of 12 years (24 months of basic pay).
Service members do not apply for DSP. The military will instead refer the service member to the Medical Examination Board or the Physical Examination Board. The Board will determine if the service member’s disability is disqualifying for further military service. If so, the case is referred to VA for an initial rating decision used by the military to determine whether the service member receives a medical discharge or a medical retirement. If VA awards a disability rating of 30% or higher, the member is placed on either the Permanent Disability Retired List (PRRL), or the Temporary Disability Retired List (TDRL) if they believe the condition will improve.
According to CCK, Veterans Law:
Disability Severance Pay (DSP) is a lump sum benefit for service members who are discharged due to a disability. DSP is payed to a service member who is determined to be unfit to perform their required duties, and is then given a disability rating to reflect the severity of their condition. These ratings are based off VA’s Schedule for Rating Disabilities (VASRD), and can range from 0% to 100%.
In order to be eligible to receive DSP, a service member must meet these criteria:
Be found unfit to perform their required duties
Have less than 20 years of military service
Have a disability rating of 20% or less at the time of separation (30% or higher result in disability retirement)
DSP is calculated by adding 2 months of basic pay for each year of service, up to a maximum of 12 years (24 months of basic pay).
Service members do not apply for DSP. The military will instead refer the service member to the Medical Examination Board or the Physical Examination Board. The Board will determine if the service member’s disability is disqualifying for further military service. If so, the case is referred to VA for an initial rating decision used by the military to determine whether the service member receives a medical discharge or a medical retirement. If VA awards a disability rating of 30% or higher, the member is placed on either the Permanent Disability Retired List (PRRL), or the Temporary Disability Retired List (TDRL) if they believe the condition will improve.
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Definitely good advice here. Find another recruiter. I have personally worked past a RE3 and that waiver just takes time and maybe a commanders interview. As far as your medical separation, that should not be an issue if you can prove you are physically competent to meet the Army’s standard without an alibi.
It almost sounds like the recruiter you spoke to does not want to take your case for fear of official backlash should a “broken soldier” be admitted to the ranks. I mean no offense by that. I do know recruiters have been more cautious about the personnel they send in after the incident with the autistic recruit. Errors like that will have an effect on their career.
It almost sounds like the recruiter you spoke to does not want to take your case for fear of official backlash should a “broken soldier” be admitted to the ranks. I mean no offense by that. I do know recruiters have been more cautious about the personnel they send in after the incident with the autistic recruit. Errors like that will have an effect on their career.
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If you got medical separated why would want to get back?
Medical separated means you are not fit to serve anymore
Medical separated means you are not fit to serve anymore
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Overall, USAREC has the final say when the recruiter submits the waiver. I’d still seek out another recruiter and try it out.
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Honestly, I wouldn’t want to do the paperwork either. It’s a crap load of work when I can find someone who requires very little work for the exact same credit. You can join though if a waiver is approved.
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Try and go the NG or reserve route back door route to the ARMY..... If Iran ignites you're back in easy...
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