Posted on Feb 16, 2014
CSM Mike Maynard
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See article below.

As individual as Soldiers feet, ankles, knees, stride, gait, etc - do we really want to mandate which shoes a Soldier can wear?

Is this uniformity for uniformity sake or is there a benefit?


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ONLY if there is a SERIES of shoes to fit everyone's feet. Now if there is a single shoe for everyone, I can foresee nothing good coming of that.
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SGM Thomas Raymann
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This is the dumbest this I have ever heard.  Why does big Army believe that one size fits all when it comes to running shoes?  
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Haven't seen this posted yet, but if you read the article about the standard running shoes it would only affect those that are just joining the Army and not everyone else that is already in. They are trying to make it where the shoes that the new Soldiers are issued are American made. I agree with everyone else's opinion about the cost and the whole budget thing. There are far more important things that the Military should be using money on and this to me is not one of them. Just like every other thing in the Army, they would find some new pattern, color, style, or whatever and change it a few years down the road. This is just another example of fraud, waste and abuse.
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SSG James Doherty
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CSM Maynard,

 

I could easily get behind a shoe that was designed especially for US Forces as long as the shoe is only being limited in its overall look.  There should be as many options (cushioning, motion control, stability, width, minimal, etc.) as are available through the current options.  It should also have a mileage limit equal to or greater than the best shoes on the market.  I have always been botherd by Soldiers that decide to wear lime green, hot pink, or other outrageous colors, but limiting the ability to choose which shoe is best for the activity or that day will only serve to hinder or harm Soldiers.

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What makes more sense is the Army contacting shoemakers about colors. Offer every shoe in black, gray, or gold, or a combination of these colors. It doesn't make sense to mandate a particular shoe......I'm still trying to figure out why our PT hats (fleece) are green instead of black?
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SFC Gwendolyn was Gregory L.
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OMG whats next.... is time to retire.. lol
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As someone with "unique" footwear needs thanks to my father's exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam,  I think I would break the whole uniformity goal.


How?  I doubt the Army would have running shoes in one of the sizes (yes I wear two very different sizes)  I require.  Thus, I would have to be allowed to wear the footwear I am able to wear.  When I buy running shoes, it is like planning a major operation.  I have to find a brand that produces the two totally different sizes I need in the same color and style.  That usually means adult and youth sizes.  It is not an easy thing to do.  My latest pair had me on the Internet for over two hours trying to find the right match.


Based on my experiences in the Army trying to get basic issue footwear, I have no confidence in this latest line of thought.  In Basic Training, I had to get medical staff involved in just trying to get boots and low quarters.  Prior to my second deployment, it took an IG complaint and G-4 involvement to get an additional pair of boots issued to me by the civilians at RFI.  This is a bad idea all the way around.

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Thanks SGT Newman!  I will look into that.
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The purpose behind this seems to be based on legal requirements (Berry amdt) that states anything the Military purchases should be manufactured in the United States.  The ONLY time this applies to running shoes is inn Basic Training when Trainees are given a voucher to buy their first pair.

This does not appear to be about "uniformity" in shoes and should not affect Soldiers already in the Army. (It also doesn't appear the Army wants to implement this, but instead is being pressured by shoe lobbyists and Congress.)

I certainly would not want to see this morph into a dictated shoe for all Soldiers. Hopefully, the current voucher program will stay in effect, as it appears to offer Trainees better options at a lower cost to the Government.
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TSgt Hh 60 G Maintainer
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Sir:

At Reception, all Soldiers are required to go through a mandatory foot screening to determine what type of running shoes a Soldier should have.  Then they are marched to the shopette (at least at Ft. Benning) and forced to buy a new pair of running shoes using the Eagle Cash Card they were issued earlier.  This Eagle Cash Card is drawn from the recruit's first paycheck.  Thus there is no voucher.  It comes out of the recruit's pocket.
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CPT Watch Officer, J33
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I was going based of what the article said about use of a voucher (assuming the Army Times is accurate is often a mistake).

I honestly don't see any added value in an official running shoe.
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sounds to me like a committee more concerned with uniformity than actual foot/ankle/knee health. Personally, I don't have much use for flourescent yellow or pink or orange running shoes but civilians don't produce styles with the military in mind. I generally try to find running shoes that are grey, or black or "generally" match with the IPU stuff I am forced to wear already. How about we "mandate" that first before a Army of "One shoe fits all?"
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Personally I think a "mandatory shoe" or a small selection of "approved" shoes from which to choose is a bad idea. There are many specific conditions / considerations across the force and this certainly cannot be properly handled with the proverbial "one size fits all" approach. I went through the "mandatory shoe brand / type" in military school and had shin splints every time I ran. Not a good idea at all. And remember ... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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I dont think the Army or any branch should go to one PT shoe. Everyone runs in a different way, and all feet are different, you cant make one shoe that will fit every Soldier in the Army. When I joined we did the wet test at Reception, once we did that it showed me what type of shoe I should buy and wear. Over the years my running style has changed and I have gone to a shoe with more sole and that is lighter. I think the Army should let us pick our shoes!

I really think this push in for uniformity seeing how many Soldiers go and buy these bright shoes that take away from the uniform.

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When I was at reception at Ft. Jackson, we stood on a light box, were professionally measured, and then we were issued a pair of sneakers.  There were at least 4 brands, but you did not get to choose.  I have since gone to specialty running stores for professional fittings, but I have never found a better pair of sneakers than the ASICS I was issued at BCT.

If they implemented the program the same way, I would be all for it.  I didn't know much about running shoes when I came in and walking Soldiers through it for the first time insures that Soldiers have at least one quality pair of shoes and are trained on how to select the right shoes.  
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MAJ G 6 Plans Oic
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When I went through BCT they didn't have running shoes for my feet so they let me run in the ones I brought.  While I think they should definitely assist Soldiers with getting the right footwear for their foot type, I don't think they should force them into a brand or two...or four.  

The best pair of shoes I have ever run in are Mizunos, and I've been running in Mizunos for about 10 years.  Until recently, AAFES didn't even carry Mizuno running shoes (they do carry cleats) and I've only seen them once at a PX...and not the kind I run in since I need motion control shoes for my foot type.
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SFC Gary Fox
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I think all Soldiers should be professionally measured for running shoes for PT.  This provides the Soldier with knowledge on how to buy them in the future to help reduce injuries from running.  
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CSM Mike Maynard
CSM Mike Maynard
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CPT Nocchi - I'm a Mizuno fan also and wear the "motion control" variants.
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