Posted on Sep 12, 2016
Is the old enlisted/officer paygrade system outdated, considering the more educated service members under an All Volunteer Force?
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I feel it the old Military Paygrade Enlisted Officer system is not optimal, to take advantage the new use of the 1975 induction of the AVF All Volunteer Force educated citizen/service member, when the DOD finally had QOL Quality Of Life as a budget item?
The old system seems to start from the world of kings and queens monarchy's etc where the plebeian are drafted, conscripted, and separated from various functional civilized intelligent things in various ways.
We still need a fighting force willing to stand strong. No one disagrees. Now we have over 90% high school graduates at a minimum enlisting as early as 18 in the AVF since 1975, who should be able to be honored for their intelligence, determination, willingness to be that force that defends. We are no longer drafted into the old world construct of military systems.
The old system seems to start from the world of kings and queens monarchy's etc where the plebeian are drafted, conscripted, and separated from various functional civilized intelligent things in various ways.
We still need a fighting force willing to stand strong. No one disagrees. Now we have over 90% high school graduates at a minimum enlisting as early as 18 in the AVF since 1975, who should be able to be honored for their intelligence, determination, willingness to be that force that defends. We are no longer drafted into the old world construct of military systems.
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Honestly, when I was in the USAF, the officers were literal dumbasses. I got out so I did not have to breathe the same air as these dumbasses. Sadly, the NCO corp was not much better.
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If you have the Money for college,you can be an officer.Work experience and time in will in very very rare cases give you the opportunity to try and become a Warrent Officer.Life is not fair,suck it up buttercup. As for me I say draft them all,draft the college edjucated into the enlisted ranks.The only problem I see with most high ranking officers is they are to detached from their enlisted men and too attached too politics
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I have the solution. Pay should be based upon an individual merit system. The higher an individual rating, the higher the monetary compensation. So, in theory, a private could receive a higher rate of pay than a Major, given he receives a higher rating. So the solution is simple, merit.
Now, if you've managed to survive that line of drivel, you'll realize why we have the current system we do. Is it perfect? Of course not, no system is. But if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!
Now, if you've managed to survive that line of drivel, you'll realize why we have the current system we do. Is it perfect? Of course not, no system is. But if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!
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I think the draft is healthy. Keeps down military adventurism. Helps young men grow up. The change I’d make in officer system is not getting rid of mustangs first.
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In time you will realize that your pay and benefits rely primarily on a couple things. Your skill level in the profession you choose, and your negotiation skills. There are others to be sure. Now let’s be honest you are still at the entry level in your chosen field, either that or you are , let’s not go there. Also if you don’t like your situation get off your ass and do something about it. You signed up serve with integrity and honor it does not have to be a lifelong career.
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The Russian Communists tried to do Away with rank, back in the 20s, after they took over Russia, it proved to be a disaster to their military, the Chinese under Moa tried to do it also, it proved to be a disager to them also. So, why do you want to destroy our military, with a idea that has been a proven failure?
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It didn't work because the military is build on a higherachy of rank. Discipline, Morale, leadership are all dependant on a rank structure. Technology demands a highly educated work (fighting) force. But planning for the training and deployment of that force requires Officers trained in different skill sets than NCOs and Enlisted soldiers. I have served 30 years, 10 1/2 as Enlisted and 20 as an Officer. I discovered it required different mindsets to excell at each.
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The Chineese tried a rankless command structure for their miliary Afterall as Communists everyone was equal, comrades
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Oppinion seems to center on one's educational accomplishments. An academic degree is not really the bases of why one should be commissioned and the other in an enlisted status. It is about who should really take responsibility for missions and be willing to command. I hear Soldiers rant all the time about having a masters degree when their commander only has a bachelors degree. "Why does he/she get more pay than me?" It's not because of their education, but a willingness to accept the risk of responsibility. Stop belly aching about having more education than your leader. Step up and apply for OCS.
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